Shoutbox Archive Thread (slow Load - Long Posts)

Feb 13, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Statboy: My last battlefield controller I prepared Barbed Chains for tripping and Burning Disarm to make an NPC drop what they are holding. At 1st level
Feb 13, 2017 at 9:14 AM - Statboy: though Iron Beard, Magic Weapon, and Protection from Evil are good party buffs to consider
Feb 13, 2017 at 11:19 AM - English: One good thing I have seen a lot of controllers do is only prep 60-75% of their daily allotment of spells
Feb 13, 2017 at 11:19 AM - English: and then during the adventure once we see what is going on. take 15 min to pray and prepare the rest of your allotment
Feb 13, 2017 at 11:20 AM - English: Cuz Clerics OP
Feb 13, 2017 at 12:43 PM - theLumberJack: cleric and wizard
Feb 13, 2017 at 12:43 PM - theLumberJack: good time
Feb 13, 2017 at 12:54 PM - theLumberJack: so how does one actually save their character in fantasy grounds
Feb 13, 2017 at 12:54 PM - theLumberJack: or i see you have to export it
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:04 PM - English: yeah i need to get on to FG and import my character
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:05 PM - theLumberJack: english what did you do for a weapon again?
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:05 PM - English: For my paladin? scimitar
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:05 PM - English: he is gonna go Dancing Dervish and L3
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:05 PM - theLumberJack: shiny
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM - English: Dex/Cha build for my paladin
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM - English: that str penalty is too much
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM - theLumberJack: i will bludgeon things then
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM - theLumberJack: heavy flail it is
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:10 PM - English: could always go Earthbreaker
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM - English: 2d6 x3
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM - English: 2h weapon. can either do Bludgeon or Pierce damage
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM - English: sorry just bludgeoning
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM - English: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/weapon-descriptions/earth-breaker/
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:12 PM - theLumberJack: that is true
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:14 PM - theLumberJack: well time to open up a spreadsheet and spend all this extra gold he said we could have
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:15 PM - VaultBot: screw meteors or viruses. i want you to a farmer's market taste test
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:15 PM - English: I bought 6 potions of CLW
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:17 PM - English: Although if i wanted to get rid of my masterwork scimitar and chain shirt i could get a wand of CLW
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:17 PM - theLumberJack: You could always use a trait to get your weapon
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:18 PM - theLumberJack: equipment wise, im the kind of guy who says "of course i have a foldable bathtub"
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:20 PM - English: If i didnt need to use a scimitar for my build to work, i would totally take the "Chosen of Iomedae" trait
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:20 PM - English: to get that free MWK sword
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:23 PM - theLumberJack: i found a nice regional trait
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:29 PM - English: o shit
Feb 13, 2017 at 2:29 PM - theLumberJack: so dat earthbreaker
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM - English: aww yiss
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:11 PM - English: getting a +5 to hit and I only have a 12 str
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:11 PM - English: once I hit lvl 3 it will jump +2
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:12 PM - English: and so will my damage
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:12 PM - English: So at lvl 3 before Dancing Dervish it is +7 1d4+1 it will go to +9 1d4+3
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:18 PM - theLumberJack: reminds me of zanros
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM - theLumberJack: I have spent 760 GP on mundane items
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:36 PM - theLumberJack: I should buy a mule
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:41 PM - English: got myself a wand of CLW
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - English: I'm also going to be an Invigorator archetype paladin
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - English: get this cool Bestow hope
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - VaultBot: you fail so epicaly
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - English: in place of smite evil
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - English: give you all DR 1 /-
Feb 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM - English: at level 1
Feb 13, 2017 at 4:09 PM - VintagePC: dangit, I need to sit down and make my character, but stuff keeps getting in the way
Feb 13, 2017 at 5:31 PM - theLumberJack: im finishing mine up tonight
Feb 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - VintagePC: damnit
Feb 13, 2017 at 6:00 PM - VintagePC: there goes another $20 ordering shit off Ebay
Feb 13, 2017 at 8:34 PM - VintagePC: I'll attempt to get mine done tomorrow
Feb 13, 2017 at 8:36 PM - theLumberJack: I'm interested in what TC will do
Feb 13, 2017 at 8:45 PM - SoL DarkLord: I'm a bit surprised that I was not asked by TC about the Unchained rogue.

Feb 14, 2017 at 7:02 AM - TimeCrush: TC Has been juggling work things, and will most likely assess what he is doing tonight or tomorrow night.
Feb 14, 2017 at 7:05 AM - TimeCrush: Read up on it for a few minutes though. Sounds way better than vanilla rogue.
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:27 AM - English: What time are we starting?
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:27 AM - English: Honestly TC -- You are better off going with Unchained Rogue
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:28 AM - English: Unchained makes Rogues playable
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:28 AM - VaultBot: a borderlands game i am actually excited about. only took them 3 games.
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:28 AM - English: before, Rogues could be outclassed either by a cheap item or by another class
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM - English: There is an item called a skeletor key which gives you a +10 disable device when unlocking a lock
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM - English: skeleton*
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM - English: cheap as fuck and made old rogues useless lol
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM - VaultBot: fastco won't even talk to me about it
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:29 AM - English: at least unchained rogues can actually be pretty good frontline skirmishers as well as skill monkeys
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:51 AM - Statboy: The biggest problem with Rogue was paizo thought 8+int skill points was as useful as full BAB
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:52 AM - Statboy: but the Rogue doesn't have enough knowledges to make it very useful
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:52 AM - Statboy: That being said Rogue does have the highest potential damage output of any core class
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:55 AM - Statboy: Rogues are more than just disable magic locks, which does the skeletor key let you open magic locks? Normal Disable Device doesn't
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:57 AM - English: No it doesnt. But chances are your group has a Wizard who can take care of magical locks
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:58 AM - Statboy: that requires the wizard burning a spell, most wizards won't prepare that spell unless they don't have a rogue
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:58 AM - English: scrolls
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:59 AM - English: if a wizard doesn't have an obscene amount of scrolls for virtually every possible situation, then he is playing the wizard wrong
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:59 AM - Statboy: I just looked at the skeleton key, it gives +10, but that replaces your own ability modifier, and you can't take 10
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:59 AM - English: Still a cheap alternative to wasting an entire character class on the old rogue
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM - English: at least the Rogue gets reliable damage with unchained
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM - English: and skill checks get vastly better with the unchained skills
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM - VaultBot: without pictures we'll never believe
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:00 AM - Statboy: If Mummy's Mask is any indication, the skeleton key is useless by level 5, because at that point are DC 18 and up. They came across a magical DC 40 DD trap at level 5 even
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:01 AM - English: Ok well in that same token the rogue would be useless too
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:01 AM - English: What rogue is going to have a 20+ disable device by lvl 5
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:01 AM - Statboy: The rogue can increase there modifier beyond +10
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:02 AM - Statboy: that was an abnormal trap, but still the rest are DC 18 and up and you can't take 10 with the key
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM - English: still likely to average a roll of 10 and surpass those DC18s
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM - English: and chances are a rogue at 5th level still only has a +10 to maybe +12 DD
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM - English: +14 if they are going nuts
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Statboy: but the rogue can take 10, and keep increasing their modifier past level 5, skeleton key can't
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:04 AM - Statboy: skeleton key just looks like a good early thing to have, but quickly becomes useless
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:04 AM - English: true. Too bad old rogues did not provide much use besides a skill monkey
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:04 AM - Statboy: highest potential Damage output of any core
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:04 AM - English: except it actually has to hit the target
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:05 AM - English: 3/4 BAB is not gonna cut it really quick
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:05 AM - Statboy: it is worse at actually hitting the target
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:05 AM - English: because enemy AC scores shoot through the roof
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Statboy: when they do hit, its for quite a lot of damage. Unchained Monk is the only unchained I'd allow
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Statboy: Monk is terrible as written
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:07 AM - English: How so?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:08 AM - Statboy: because of how flurry of blows works mostly
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:08 AM - English: And when they do hit, they can potentially do a lot of damage. But even then a 15th level rogue is only going to add roughly 24 points of damage on average and may only hit once or twice
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:08 AM - English: of their 3 attacks
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:08 AM - Statboy: thats the only way to put out decent damage, even then its only with kinda crappy weapons, but you can only Flurry in full round attacks
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:09 AM - English: kinda crappy weapons? They really expanded the amount of weapons that get the 'monk' category
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:09 AM - Statboy: so if a monk can't full round attack, he's easily the worst, and he doesn't have any magic to use in those situations
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Statboy: temple sword is the best monk isn't it?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Statboy: 1d6
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - VaultBot: i'm emptying my recycle bin right now, half way thru i've deleted 4.3 gb of crap
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - English: no
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - Statboy: so unarmed would actually be better
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - English: Temple sword is 1.8
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - English: 1d8*
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - English: Sansetsukon is a 2h 1d10
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM - English: can use it to flurry
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:11 AM - English: And if you are only going to judge their damage output when they cant make a full attack then by that same token, Fighters Barbarians and Paladins are just as awful
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:11 AM - Statboy: i did not know they had a 2 handed monk
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - English: yarp
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - English: they have 9 ring broadsword 1d8 x3
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Statboy: barbarians, fighters, and paladins can usually make a single attack that is decent, and at full BAB
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - English: Sansetsukon is also a 19-20 /x2
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - English: So would Monks
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Statboy: you have to flurry to get full BAB as a monk
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - English: not with unchained
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:12 AM - Statboy: right
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - Statboy: that's why I'd allow unchained monk
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - Statboy: I think not getting full BAB without flurrying makes monk too weak
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - English: oh i thought you said that unchained is horrible as written
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - Statboy: no stock monk is horrible
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - English: Why would you not allow Unchained Rogue?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:13 AM - English: yes stock monk is garbage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:14 AM - English: Unchained rogue actually gives them the ability to hit reliably
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:14 AM - Statboy: honestly full BAB was the only change they needed to give Monk, so that he's not flurry dependant
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:14 AM - English: and do reliable damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:14 AM - English: Bonus Weapon Finesse feat at lvl 1
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM - English: ability to use Dex for damage as well as attack at lvl 3
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM - Statboy: I like unchained monks utility, his fists count as silver/adamantine/magic/ etc
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM - English: At lvl 4 Rogues can provide utility with their attacks by debilitating the enemy
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM - Statboy: a monk should always be able to bypass DR IMO
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:16 AM - English: Gain skill unlocks to make them better skill monkeys
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:16 AM - English: Rogue talents to make them less trash
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:16 AM - Statboy: I think Ninja tricks did more to fix Rogue than unchained did
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:16 AM - English: Oh man you havent read up on unchained then
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:17 AM - English: Ninja tricks only added a few tricks to the rogue talent selection
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:17 AM - VaultBot: don't beat your kids or house them in the past
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:17 AM - English: most of what Ninjas added rogues could already select from
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:17 AM - English: Being able to have Dex for Damage as well as free weapon finesse?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:17 AM - English: able to get Two weapon Fighting at L1?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM - English: Ability at Lvl 4 to reduce an enemies AC/Attack Bonus/Movement
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM - English: Gain skill unlock at Lvl 5?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Statboy: I just think adding the Ninja tricks to the Rogue talent list was enough
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM - English: Holy shit are skill unlocks crazy and overpowered
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM - Statboy: because a rogue can take a ninja trick each time
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM - Statboy: they aren't limited to taking it once or from a small list
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM - English: The Talents are really just the icing on the cake
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:20 AM - Statboy: that reflects that I don't think stock rogue needed much

Feb 14, 2017 at 9:22 AM - English: Oh stock rogues were mediocre at best. Feat starved. Low chance to hit. No source of reliable damage. Completely at mercy of the dice when it comes to damage. Skills monkey could be replaced by any number of other classes
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:22 AM - English: no skill unlocks
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:23 AM - English: All the things that rogues could do before unchained they still can. Just with even more awesome things they can do
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:23 AM - Statboy: not feat starved, you can take a feat in place of a rogue talent, and highest damage potential
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - Statboy: they kind of needed to not have full BAB, with full BAB they're a bit overpowered
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - VaultBot: yeah vint. i want an actual dice sitting to the left of the typing box. do it.
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - English: they dont have full BAB
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - English: still 3/4
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - Statboy: unchained does?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:24 AM - English: yes
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM - Statboy: i thought unchained had full BAB, thats why i didn't allow it
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM - English: nah
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM - English: still 3/4
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM - English: Highest potential damage but near lowest average damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:25 AM - English: And In certain circumstances I wouldn't even say they have the highest potential
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM - Statboy: they are less useful against high BAB critters, more useful against high HP
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM - theLumberJack: Yes. Am nerd.
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM - Statboy: damn it Reechard wheres my middle finger emote
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM - English: Not really. Higher HP means they require more hits
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM - English: Which means the rogue has to hit more times on probably a higher AC enemy
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Statboy:

Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM - English: They are only likely to hit 1 out o 3 attacks at level 15
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Statboy: there it is Reechard
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:27 AM - Statboy: high HP tends to have lower AC, letting them hit more often
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:28 AM - Statboy: such as Oozes
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:28 AM - English: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/dragons/dragon/metallic-gold/gold-dragon-old/
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:28 AM - English: good luck on your rogue hitting that thing
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:28 AM - English: AC 33?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - Statboy: old dragon, you'd better be level 20 before going at it
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - English: CR 18
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - English: could very well be a lvl 15 boss encounter
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - English: for a party of 4-5 lvl 15 PCs
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - VaultBot: bah oh well i'll just make a damn house with
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:29 AM - theLumberJack: Go for the pin
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:30 AM - Statboy: Dex to hit at +8 by then +11 first hit BAB, +2 flanking to get sneak damage, +2 magical weapon= 1d20+23 50/50 to hit
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:30 AM - English: at lvl 15 rogue has what? +19 for their first attack? Just above a 50/50 shot
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:31 AM - English: +8 Dex?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:31 AM - English: Wtf is up with your rogue
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:31 AM - English: 26 dexterity? holy balls
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Statboy: if you rogue and dex to hit you have a +4 belt by level 15
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:31 AM - Statboy: and your maxing dex
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:32 AM - English: And imma laugh when your rogue gets one shotted becuase they have 12 con
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:32 AM - English: and 100hp
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Statboy: they'd have higher AC with that Dex
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:32 AM - English: that AC not gonna matter
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:32 AM - Statboy: but yes all rogues are a little hp starved
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:33 AM - English: when the monster is hitting at +27
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:33 AM - Statboy: they can't kill what they can't hit
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:33 AM - English: bite +30 (4d6+18/19-20), 2 claws +30 (2d8+12/19-20), tail slap +28 (2d8+18), 2 wings +28 (2d6+6)
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:33 AM - English: your rogue is gonna be pretty close to dead
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Statboy: no blind vision, rogue would be invisible by then
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:34 AM - Statboy: even if he did perception him he have a 50/50 not to hit
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM - English: you are also assuming they have no method of seeing invisibility
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM - English: or dont have blind fighting
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM - Statboy: your dragon doesn't
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:36 AM - English: Actually it does
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:36 AM - English: 5 times a day true seeing
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:36 AM - English: And dispel magic
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:36 AM - English: And invisibility purge
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - theLumberJack: Didn't anyone try just talking to the dragon?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - English: And as long as your DM isn't intentionally throwing the fight, the dragon WILL figure it out
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - English: 22 int 23 wis
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - Statboy: by my rogue point buy, I'd have a 16 con
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - Statboy: I'd probably try to +2 that with something
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:37 AM - English: 138 HP average
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - English: If that dragon hits you with all of its attacks. Which it will because you are going to have like a 28AC
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Statboy: obviously any 1 party member at level 15 can't handle a CR 18 dragon alone
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - English: it does a minimum 86 damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Statboy: the rogue would be just as useful as the barbarian and fighter
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - English: barb could prob take 4 hits
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM - Statboy: and do half the damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - English: nah
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - Statboy: thats why you need a party
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - English: Barb does far more reliable damage than rogue
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - VaultBot: oh vintage you will
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - Statboy: I need to introduce my friend
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - Statboy: Thomas to you guys
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - English: Hits more often and hits harder on average
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - theLumberJack: Graldor smash.
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:40 AM - Statboy: he likes to compete in PF DPS stuff
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:41 AM - Statboy: where you theory craft the highest possible DPS given a specific set of circumstances
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:41 AM - English: And if that dragon is an evil dragon
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:41 AM - English: well. Just leave it to the Paladin
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:41 AM - Statboy: Paladin smite evil, is great against evil
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:41 AM - Statboy: don't worry the Rogue will kill all those pesky neutrals for you
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - English: I havent even talked about highest possible DPS. Im talking about averages
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - Statboy: apparently Magus is the highest possible DPS, according to Thomas
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - English: Most APs where you would have a paladin has evils galore
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - English: eah
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - English: yeah*
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:42 AM - English: Spell crit is obnoxious
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - English: shocking grasp that does 10d6 with a x2 crit
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - English: with maximized spell
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - English: and empowered
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - theLumberJack: Lol
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - Statboy: LJ was putting out some obscene damage with his Magus
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:43 AM - English: Magus' can easily do 200+damage a hit
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:44 AM - English: totes forgot about magus
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:44 AM - theLumberJack: Yes and I wasn't trying to go all out
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - English: yeah they make shit disappear

Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - Statboy: the comment was made "If your Magus isn't doing 100 damage a hit by level 10 you're doing it wrong"
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - English: ^^
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - English: we had a magus in my tabletop skull and shackles campaign
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - English: guy was doing 80-100 damage a hit at like lvl 7-8
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:45 AM - English: we would just sit back and watch him 2 shot bosses
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:46 AM - theLumberJack: Lol
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:46 AM - English: One fight we actually didnt get to attack
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:46 AM - English: or rather do damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:46 AM - Statboy: Summoner and Magus need a nerf
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:47 AM - English: yeah. A bunch of DMs i see don't allow summoners period
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:47 AM - Statboy: I've never met one that allows Summoner, and half don't allow Gunslinger, just because of a couple specific guns
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:47 AM - English: Ah
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:47 AM - English: I make my gunslinger a Bolt Ace
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM - English: Repeating crossbow that adds dex to damage
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM - Statboy: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/firearms/modern-firearms/
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM - English: yeah Firearms to me doesn't fit within Pathfinder
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:48 AM - Statboy: light Madsen Machine gun, does 2d6 damage in a 100 ft line
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - English: and ive only seen guns as emerging. never seen a DM allow full blown modern weaponry
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - English: so its like muskets and single shot pistols
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - Statboy: or mount an M1910 and get 2d8 damage in a line
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - theLumberJack: I let gunslingers. Just emerging
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - English: ^^
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:49 AM - English: nothing beyond emerging
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM - Statboy: thats resonable
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM - theLumberJack: A revolver is the pinnacle, beyond emerging but at that point is late game
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM - English: i think id allow a revolver by mid to late game. once people start getting multiple attacks
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM - theLumberJack: Exactly
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM - English: emerging and early guns arent too broken because they don't do a whole lot of damage. they just get to hit against Touch AC
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM - Statboy: doesn't Iron Gods have modern weaponry?
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM - theLumberJack: It has sci Fi stuff
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:51 AM - Statboy: like you'll find laser weapons
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - English: i dunno
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - English: never played Iron Gods
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - English: and never read thru it
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - theLumberJack: Graldor smash devils magic.
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - theLumberJack: The player's guide tells you there will be tech
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:52 AM - Statboy: rofl, Android was made for Iron Gods
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM - English: yeha
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:54 AM - Statboy: i really need to get my ass up and get some work done
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:55 AM - theLumberJack: Come shovel my drive way
Feb 14, 2017 at 9:59 AM - theLumberJack: We got about 75 cm of snow since Sunday night
Feb 14, 2017 at 10:01 AM - theLumberJack: Pretty dense to
Feb 14, 2017 at 10:14 AM - English: yeahhh
Feb 14, 2017 at 11:59 AM - Statboy: snow, it was 60 F here yesterday
Feb 14, 2017 at 3:52 PM - TimeCrush: I got about a third of the way through Stat and English talking about how shit rogues are / how you can trick them out to be semi-not shit before deciding that I'm no longer looking forward to playing / figuring out how to play a shitty class.
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM - English: Hahah they aren't shitty. I guess I should be more accurate in my descriptions. I feel like the base class of rogue has a lot of shortcomings and i believe that the unchained version fixes those shortcomings
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:17 PM - VaultBot: being a paper white kid with a southern accent. never allowed to repeat anything from music i listen to lol
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM - theLumberJack: Unchained rogue is boss TC
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:29 PM - SoL DarkLord: Yes, yes it is. I get to use one in my sunday campaign.
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:29 PM - SoL DarkLord: side note: MC Sports is shutting down entirely.
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:34 PM - TimeCrush: Aw MC Sports D: Small sliver of childhood removed
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:35 PM - SoL DarkLord: a small sliver of mine as well. now if only I had the money to buy a bow while the liquidation sale is going on.
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:37 PM - SoL DarkLord: TC, if you want I can hop in mumble and give you tips about the rogue.
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:56 PM - VintagePC: ugh
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:56 PM - VintagePC: I need to get this digikey order together
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:56 PM - VintagePC: after that, my character......... I swea
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:56 PM - VintagePC: *swear
Feb 14, 2017 at 4:58 PM - SoL DarkLord: I need to open back up my computer and pull out my motherboard, so I can pull out my wifi-chip and solder on the antenna cords. but meh... i"ll get there eventually.
Feb 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM - SoL DarkLord: actually I'll do that now. I have the time.
Feb 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM - VaultBot: you got a better experiment""
Feb 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM - SoL DarkLord: what are you trying to order anyhow vint?
Feb 14, 2017 at 5:12 PM - theLumberJack: mmmm digikey
Feb 14, 2017 at 5:16 PM - theLumberJack: i would order so many things from digikey
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:51 PM - SoL DarkLord: well that almost took me two hours. but it's done.
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:51 PM - theLumberJack: i gots cat 6 up in this bitch
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM - SoL DarkLord: Yea.. my mom would kill me if I drilled holes in the walls of her new house.
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM - VaultBot: i would too if he did perception him he have a 50/50 shot
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM - SoL DarkLord: her exact words.
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM - theLumberJack: lol
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM - SoL DarkLord: My stepdad and I talked about it while they were looking for the house.
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:55 PM - theLumberJack: we could run it with only putting in the hole for the jack so it wasn't a big deal
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:57 PM - SoL DarkLord: what???? Nintendo is given LoZ Breath of the Wild a season pass.
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:57 PM - theLumberJack: *raises eyebrow*
Feb 14, 2017 at 6:57 PM - SoL DarkLord: we're doomed. it's the end of the world.
Feb 14, 2017 at 7:03 PM - VintagePC: capacitors & switches. Servicing an Akai GX-77
Feb 14, 2017 at 7:04 PM - VintagePC: quick shower and then time to make character
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM - VintagePC: Is it just me or does the FG character sheet suck?
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:11 PM - theLumberJack: I wouldn't say it sucks
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:12 PM - theLumberJack: I would say it's inherently mediocre, and completely forgot that spells are a thing
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:13 PM - VintagePC scraps the work he put into it out of frustration
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:26 PM - theLumberJack: What was bugging you?
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:33 PM - VintagePC: a combination of not being able to find where to put shit, constantly alt-tabbing, and just general frustration at character creation complexity
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM - VintagePC: half the info on google is irrelevant, everytime I think I'm getting somewhere I run into something else, yadda yadda
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM - VintagePC: I'm too tired for this shit today
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:35 PM - theLumberJack: ah
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM - theLumberJack: i can be on mumble tomorrow night if you want someone to help
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM - theLumberJack: also you can download graldor and import him to see how i put some things in
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM - VintagePC: please.
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM - theLumberJack: yeah no problem, just shoot me a message when you want to start
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:37 PM - VintagePC: I would love to be able to crap out a char and all that but the time investment required...
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:37 PM - VintagePC: don't get me wrong, I enjoy pathfinder/RPG, but not to the point where I want to spend several hours making a new char
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:37 PM - VintagePC: I'll be in touch
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:38 PM - theLumberJack: i really like making characters
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:46 PM - VintagePC: woot, my digikey order already shipped
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:47 PM - VintagePC: hope I have it for the long weekend
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:47 PM - theLumberJack: nice
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:47 PM - VintagePC: then I can finish and button up this deck
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:49 PM - VintagePC: it's gonna be a beautiful machine when done
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:49 PM - theLumberJack: i am jealous
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM - VintagePC: in general or of something specific?

Feb 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM - theLumberJack: yes
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:51 PM - theLumberJack: but the tape deck
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:55 PM - VintagePC: I also scored me a pair of metal reels for it
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:55 PM - VintagePC: http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc46/thereeler/Comparacion_09.jpg
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:55 PM - VintagePC: two of the one on the left
Feb 14, 2017 at 8:56 PM - theLumberJack: nice

Feb 15, 2017 at 6:06 AM - VintagePC: damnit, still gets me every time... order at 8PM on tuesday from Digikey, choose cheapest USPS shipping, and expected to be here thursday
Feb 15, 2017 at 6:25 AM - TimeCrush: Sounds like a pretty boss merchant
Feb 15, 2017 at 6:44 AM - VintagePC: damn right.
Feb 15, 2017 at 10:44 AM - theLumberJack: ive never had anything from digikey take more than two days unless there's a storm
Feb 15, 2017 at 4:21 PM - VintagePC: LJ... I'm good for getting my char sorted at 8-ish ET
Feb 15, 2017 at 4:21 PM - theLumberJack: Cool
Feb 15, 2017 at 4:49 PM - VintagePC: time for dinner
Feb 15, 2017 at 4:50 PM - VintagePC: noodles with asparagus and smoked salmon... nom
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:07 PM - theLumberJack: had me up to the salmon
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:12 PM - SoL DarkLord: pengoo. and LJ while you are discussing vintage's character do you mind also being a guinea pig before the rest of the group becomes them?\
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:13 PM - theLumberJack: yeah no problem
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:14 PM - SoL DarkLord: Thanks.
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:14 PM - SoL DarkLord: also, yes I did just call everyone a guinea pig.
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:22 PM - VintagePC: vegetarian? YOU. OUT!
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:22 PM - theLumberJack: no i just don't like fish
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:23 PM - VintagePC: I'm not crazy about it either, it's one of the few I do eat
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:24 PM - VintagePC: which I know is sacrilege coming from an east-coaster
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:24 PM - theLumberJack: lol
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:26 PM - SoL DarkLord: A person in boston not liking fish? yea that's pretty bad.
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:31 PM - VintagePC: Yeah... for whatever reason it's got a super strong flavor I don't like
Feb 15, 2017 at 5:33 PM - VintagePC: best I can describe it is the kind of flavor that's in the dark fish meat, but the whole fish tastes like it and I find the dark meat so strongly flavoured I can't even eat it
Feb 15, 2017 at 6:49 PM - VintagePC: I'll be in shortly
Feb 15, 2017 at 8:53 PM - VintagePC: oh man... the downside of asparagus

Feb 16, 2017 6:22 AM - TimeCrush: Alright Sol, I anticipate being home by mid-day 2pmEST ish. Reach out to me whenever you will be available and we can hop in mummble to crank something out which passes for a char.
Feb 16, 2017 6:23 AM - TimeCrush: also I'm quitting my job today because I've got interview requests flying out of my ass (First time I've used LinkedIn, shits great.) and they can go f-f-f-f-fuck themselves
Feb 16, 2017 6:24 AM - TimeCrush: Nail in the coffin after my girl got a sizable raise and to salary, then came to me and said something along the lines of "You know we don't need that place now, you can leave if you want."
Feb 16, 2017 8:21 AM - English: What time are we playing today?
Feb 16, 2017 8:25 AM - theLumberJack: See iron gods campaign thread
Feb 16, 2017 8:28 AM - VaultBot: maybe not... but i just saw
Feb 16, 2017 8:28 AM - theLumberJack: Also I'm home all day for snow again
Feb 16, 2017 10:19 AM - TimeCrush: Aaand just had a phone interview where I was told I'd be a great fit for a Helpdesk Manager role.
Feb 16, 2017 10:19 AM - TimeCrush: Fuckin'; swish
Feb 16, 2017 10:20 AM - TimeCrush: Pray to god they never realize who I really am
Feb 16, 2017 10:20 AM - TimeCrush: A guy who says things like 'fuckin' swish'
Feb 16, 2017 10:20 AM - theLumberJack: lol
Feb 16, 2017 10:20 AM - theLumberJack: that's great to hear tc
Feb 16, 2017 12:20 PM - English: Glad to hear that TC
Feb 16, 2017 12:20 PM - English: they'd be lucky to have you
Feb 16, 2017 12:45 PM - TimeCrush: Thanks fellas.
Feb 16, 2017 12:45 PM - VaultBot: a person in boston not liking fish? yea that's pretty bad.
Feb 16, 2017 12:45 PM - TimeCrush: Daaaamn English solving the problem
Feb 16, 2017 2:09 PM - Hexalan: turns out english is a superhero
Feb 16, 2017 2:13 PM - theLumberJack: Of course he's a super hero
Feb 16, 2017 2:13 PM - theLumberJack: We're all superhero's at somepoint to someone.
Feb 16, 2017 2:32 PM - English: I REFUSE TO BE AN NPC IN MY OWN ADVENTURE
Feb 16, 2017 2:45 PM - theLumberJack plans session for his game where the players are literally NPC's saving their characters.
Feb 16, 2017 2:45 PM - theLumberJack: Jee I hope they don't feel the same way
Feb 16, 2017 4:30 PM - English: If you think about it
Feb 16, 2017 4:30 PM - English: we are all just NPCs in someone else's adventure
Feb 16, 2017 5:33 PM - SoL DarkLord: English your character is the only one not up in the campaign. but he will be by the time you join us.
Feb 16, 2017 5:33 PM - SoL DarkLord: or should be*
Feb 16, 2017 6:28 PM - Statboy: Don't strive to be an NPC in someone else's adventure, be the Archvillain!
Feb 16, 2017 6:39 PM - VaultBot: non, je ne fume pas conduites de toute nature
Feb 16, 2017 6:53 PM - Hexalan: dammit, i missed minesweeper in the arcade
Feb 16, 2017 7:09 PM - VintagePC: poor muffin
Feb 16, 2017 7:35 PM - English: hey vint
Feb 16, 2017 7:36 PM - English: i dont remember my pword
Feb 16, 2017 7:36 PM - English: and/or don't have my certificate
Feb 16, 2017 8:59 PM - theLumberJack: good first session
Feb 16, 2017 9:00 PM - theLumberJack: graldor smashed
Feb 16, 2017 9:48 PM - English: I'm sorry guys
Feb 16, 2017 9:48 PM - English: Kid woke up and wouldnt go back to sleep
Feb 16, 2017 9:48 PM - SoL DarkLord: It's alright engrish.
Feb 16, 2017 9:49 PM - theLumberJack: dad furst

Feb 16, 2017 11:27 PM - Ephex: it is friday my dudes
Feb 17, 2017 9:30 AM - Hexalan: are fantasy-not-Catholics in fantasy-not-Europe overdone
Feb 17, 2017 9:31 AM - theLumberJack: not-sure
Feb 17, 2017 9:46 AM - VaultBot: ... your ppi would be through the roof
Feb 17, 2017 9:46 AM - Statboy: ASOIAF is the closest thing to the Fantasy genre that I've enjoyed. Nearly all of his religions are Christian-esc. Though in all fairness ASOIAF might be sci-fi or post-apocalyptic
Feb 17, 2017 9:47 AM - theLumberJack: i wouldnt say its post apocalyptic, it seems they are in the midst of their apocalypse. it is actively happening
Feb 17, 2017 9:47 AM - VaultBot: see iron gods campaign thread
Feb 17, 2017 9:47 AM - Statboy: LJ I have tin-foil theories for you
Feb 17, 2017 9:49 AM - VaultBot: omg, use your phone will be feeding itself its own content
Feb 17, 2017 9:49 AM - Statboy: Most Fantasy settings is the middle ages. Look at Christianity in the middle ages, it was an evil complex used by leaders to control the masses. Until the people took their religion back
Feb 17, 2017 9:50 AM - Statboy: So having a charismatic leader pervert a religion to gain power and control is not a terrible bad guy
Feb 17, 2017 9:50 AM - Statboy: It's a believable one, because we've seen it before
Feb 17, 2017 9:51 AM - VaultBot: im a very detached brother in general. all i know to keep track of
Feb 17, 2017 9:51 AM - Statboy: For LJ

Feb 17, 2017 1:05 PM - theLumberJack: i wil lwatch that when i get home tonight!
Feb 17, 2017 2:14 PM - Hexalan: All of ASOIAF religions being christian-esque?
Feb 17, 2017 2:15 PM - Hexalan: the 7 is a pretty clear expy of catholicism and the holy trinity, but i don't see how anything else is christian like
Feb 17, 2017 2:19 PM - VaultBot: you've seen that adult toy that syncs with a video, so when the lady is giving oral it simulates oral,
Feb 17, 2017 2:19 PM - theLumberJack: the fire pretty seem pretty christian like to me
Feb 17, 2017 2:19 PM - theLumberJack: fire people
Feb 17, 2017 2:20 PM - Hexalan: assuming martin knows about zoroastrianism, they're definitely zoroastrian
Feb 17, 2017 2:21 PM - Hexalan: the fire imagery, clear duality between the two gods and their principles, and etiology and very much zoroastian
Feb 17, 2017 2:24 PM - VaultBot: i'm officially a government employee now. you get paid to not tell the public all the governments corruption and under table drug use?
Feb 17, 2017 2:24 PM - Hexalan: azor ahai is also suspiciously similar enough to asha to make me believe it
Feb 17, 2017 2:25 PM - theLumberJack: okay
Feb 17, 2017 2:27 PM - theLumberJack: and christianity has the similar parallels to zorastrianism
Feb 17, 2017 2:31 PM - Hexalan: only as far as monotheism, i'd think
Feb 17, 2017 2:31 PM - Statboy: its kinda interesting to look at the evolution of religions and see how much they really do tie together
Feb 17, 2017 2:39 PM - English: And the Religion of the northerners is almost druidic in nature
Feb 17, 2017 2:40 PM - English: worshipping spirits of nature
Feb 17, 2017 2:41 PM - theLumberJack: as a not christian, christianity seems to have the duality of zoarastrianism
Feb 17, 2017 2:45 PM - Hexalan: it's similar, but the big thing that differentiates zoroastrianism is that the great "evil" isn't subservient to the great "good". not created by or literally subservient like lucifer is by G. in zurvanism, they're actually explicitly equal and opposite twins (though no one actually is zurvanist anymore)
Feb 17, 2017 2:47 PM - Hexalan: also: yas english
Feb 17, 2017 3:13 PM - Statboy: ASOIAF also has The Great Shepherd, very Christian
Feb 17, 2017 3:13 PM - Statboy: The warrior baby thingy, which is very Angelic/Cherub
Feb 17, 2017 3:14 PM - Statboy: read through the chapter again where Arya is walking in the house of black and white listing off all the deities
Feb 17, 2017 3:15 PM - VaultBot: i've never met one that allows summoner, and half don't allow gunslinger, just because of a few attempts on live people, but it never did to begin with... did it? guess i am only talking about averages
Feb 17, 2017 3:15 PM - Statboy: I would say half or more are rather Christian esc
Feb 17, 2017 3:16 PM - Hexalan: do they really have enough description to be christian-esque?
Feb 17, 2017 3:18 PM - Hexalan: one sentence of flock imagery or other generic do-good doctrine isn't necessarily christian
Feb 17, 2017 3:19 PM - theLumberJack: fair
Feb 17, 2017 4:15 PM - Statboy: The Lazarene, who are Lamb Men and worship the Great Shepherd. That is practically screaming Nazarene, my parents denomination of Christianity
Feb 17, 2017 4:16 PM - Statboy: We actually know quite a bit about them, the Great Shepherd was a healer, and the town healer (Miri Maz Dur) had the largest building in the center of town
Feb 17, 2017 4:16 PM - Statboy: Jesus actually means healer
Feb 17, 2017 4:20 PM - theLumberJack: I dont believe it means that stat
Feb 17, 2017 4:24 PM - Statboy: You used such excellent logic to make a wonderful point LJ
Feb 17, 2017 4:24 PM - Statboy: in the face of such logic I must abandon my views and accept yours as fact
Feb 17, 2017 4:25 PM - theLumberJack: Well I mean we've provided equal amounts
Feb 17, 2017 4:26 PM - theLumberJack: The hebrew roots mean rescue and deliverance
Feb 17, 2017 4:26 PM - Statboy: I'm not saying its set in stone, just if your going to say you think differently give me something for evidence to look at
Feb 17, 2017 4:27 PM - Statboy: That's just a pet peeve of mine
Feb 17, 2017 4:27 PM - theLumberJack: Yes and i wanted the same after your statement
Feb 17, 2017 4:27 PM - Statboy: whenever somebody says they don't believe you and just leave it at that like its a valid argument
Feb 17, 2017 4:51 PM - theLumberJack: Or is simply attempting to solicit one
Feb 17, 2017 5:17 PM - Statboy: i grew up mowing the lawn of a guy who helped translate the NIV in exchange for bible study lessons from him, he's the one who told me
Feb 17, 2017 5:17 PM - Statboy: Dr. Ralph Earle
Feb 17, 2017 5:18 PM - Statboy: I'd link his Wiki page, but it always links to the wrong Ralph Earle
Feb 17, 2017 5:21 PM - Statboy: It stuck with me because he seemed to think my name, Jason, and Jesus were derived from the same name. But I can't find any internet sites that would corroborate him
Feb 17, 2017 6:12 PM - Hexalan: jesus has a common root with joshua, i know that
Feb 17, 2017 6:13 PM - Hexalan: yeshua being a etymologically hebrew name
Feb 17, 2017 6:13 PM - Hexalan: whereas jason is greek in origin, so i don't believe jason and jesus are going to be related
Feb 17, 2017 6:15 PM - Hexalan: which, according to the internet, does mean healer, so i suppose to if you think jesus and jason are related, i can see how you got healer fro jesus
Feb 17, 2017 6:17 PM - VaultBot: that says more about you than us
Feb 17, 2017 6:17 PM - Hexalan: that lhazarene-nazarene link is good tho
Feb 17, 2017 6:40 PM - English: Yehoshua (Joshua) Means G-d is our savior
Feb 17, 2017 6:42 PM - English: And this is (I assume) the dr earle you are talking about stat
Feb 17, 2017 6:42 PM - English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Earle,_Jr.
Feb 17, 2017 6:44 PM - English: His wiki page does not creddit him with NIV translation
Feb 17, 2017 6:48 PM - Hexalan: it says he "served on the Committee on Bible Translation for the New International Version", but two of the references are broken and the last one doesn't say anything more
Feb 17, 2017 6:49 PM - Hexalan: it's unclear if he actually directly participated
Feb 17, 2017 7:01 PM - theLumberJack: Ah the period is part of the link
Feb 17, 2017 7:02 PM - Hexalan: lol yeah
Feb 17, 2017 7:02 PM - theLumberJack: The fact that Woonsocket is a place fantastic
Feb 17, 2017 7:09 PM - Statboy: Having met the man, I can say he did directly participate. He told stories of fighting over the translation of really simple words
Feb 17, 2017 7:10 PM - Statboy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Version
Feb 17, 2017 8:04 PM - English: Well when translating the original hebrew into the new testament they butchered plenty of simple words
Feb 17, 2017 8:06 PM - English: one of the most notable is how many modern translations of the bible still put the 6th commandment as "Thou shalt not kill" which is 100 false
Feb 17, 2017 8:07 PM - English: when the hebrew word "Tirzach" specifically means murder
Feb 17, 2017 8:07 PM - English: תִרְצָח
Feb 17, 2017 8:08 PM - VaultBot: never watched it but any time someone mentions it i have to i didn't know if you want i can hop in mummble to crank something out which passes for a few minutes late
Feb 17, 2017 8:08 PM - English: the root being Ratzach
Feb 17, 2017 8:08 PM - English: the hebrew word for kill is לַהֲרוֹג
Feb 17, 2017 8:09 PM - English: they are separate in hebrew and yet many modern translations still put the 6th commandment as "Do not Kill"
Feb 17, 2017 8:10 PM - English: So it would make sense that they had many arguments over simple words
Feb 17, 2017 8:15 PM - VaultBot: sit on the internetz all day
Feb 17, 2017 8:15 PM - Hexalan: stat would be the best source on him
Feb 17, 2017 8:17 PM - Hexalan: translations of the bible are pretty much the most significant thing to be translating
Feb 17, 2017 8:21 PM - Statboy: "God created the world in 7 days" is another mistranslation, he thought
Feb 17, 2017 8:22 PM - Statboy: the word for day and the word for generic period of time are the same in the original language
Feb 17, 2017 8:23 PM - Hexalan: from what I know, whatever was in the hebrew was a generic term that meant "period of time"
Feb 17, 2017 8:23 PM - Hexalan: aaaay
Feb 17, 2017 8:23 PM - VaultBot: but for movies it makes a difference
Feb 17, 2017 8:23 PM - Hexalan: you ninjad me
Feb 17, 2017 8:24 PM - Statboy: the word is similar to yom, but I can't remember exactly what it was
Feb 17, 2017 8:53 PM - DeBo: and thats when the Debo arrived
Feb 17, 2017 8:53 PM - DeBo: NOBODY EXPECTS THE DEBO INQUISITION
Feb 17, 2017 8:56 PM - SoL DarkLord: I expect all Inquisitions.
Feb 17, 2017 9:20 PM - VaultBot: Nobody has told me anything about "laval" yet.
Feb 17, 2017 9:21 PM - VaultBot: gonna intimidate vintage into doing lava's homework :d
Feb 17, 2017 9:21 PM - SoL DarkLord: yes young one rebel against your penguin overlord.

Feb 17, 2017 at 9:32 PM - VintagePC: /giphy no
Feb 17, 2017 at 9:33 PM - VintagePC: DAMNIT
Feb 17, 2017 at 9:33 PM - VaultBot: for example wifi tethering. you get paid to not tell the public all the governments corruption and under table drug use?
Feb 17, 2017 at 9:33 PM - VintagePC: too much slack at work

Feb 18, 2017 9:00 AM - TimeCrush: @here goodmorning box.
Feb 18, 2017 9:00 AM - TimeCrush: =P
Feb 18, 2017 11:02 AM - Hexalan: cluck cluck gib crimea
Feb 18, 2017 11:07 AM - English: goob morning
Feb 18, 2017 6:04 PM - VaultBot: the next borderlands game will let you play as claptrap... pushes save and wonders if it broke
Feb 18, 2017 6:04 PM - theLumberJack: good evening
Feb 18, 2017 6:36 PM - Statboy: and goodnight
Feb 18, 2017 9:52 PM - Hexalan: night guys

Feb 19, 2017 at 2:03 AM - Net: Hi Everyone. Hope you are all doing well!
Feb 19, 2017 at 6:37 AM - VintagePC: Well there's a face we haven't seen in ages...
Feb 19, 2017 at 9:05 AM - English: Indeed
Feb 19, 2017 at 7:09 PM - VaultBot: i have them all
Feb 19, 2017 at 7:09 PM - VintagePC: woot, finished recapping my GX-77 yesterday
Feb 19, 2017 at 7:53 PM - Net: Vintage. Do the TF2 servers get any players anymore, or just have to catch them at right time?
Feb 19, 2017 at 7:55 PM - VintagePC: MVM does but that's from the random quickplay pool... The others not so much anymore, I'm afraid
Feb 19, 2017 at 7:56 PM - VintagePC: Nobody even turns up for events anymore either. Had maybe 5 people last time I tried a TF2 event... to all three groups
Feb 19, 2017 at 8:00 PM - VaultBot: anything over 200 is pointless
Feb 19, 2017 at 8:00 PM - theLumberJack:
Feb 19, 2017 at 8:07 PM - Net:
Feb 19, 2017 at 8:28 PM - VintagePC: The story of TF2 as a whole...

Feb 20, 2017 at 8:46 AM - Statboy: if the funnypics app is any indication, everybody went to overwatch
Feb 20, 2017 at 8:48 AM - theLumberJack: yeah i did
Feb 20, 2017 at 9:40 AM - Statboy: TF2 is a 10 year old game
Feb 20, 2017 at 3:06 PM - theLumberJack: in my last pf session my party had a total party knockout and was all captured
Feb 20, 2017 at 4:57 PM - Hexalan: is it conventional in c to express pi as 4*atan(1)?
Feb 20, 2017 at 8:56 PM - theLumberJack: I've never seen someone do that

Feb 21, 2017 at 8:40 AM - Reechard: I really can't blame people for moving to Overwatch, it's a very polished class-based team-fight game.
Feb 21, 2017 at 8:41 AM - VaultBot: waddling away now
Feb 21, 2017 at 8:41 AM - Reechard: and isn't maintained by a bunch of monkeys who have no idea what to do besides throw more hats at things.
Feb 21, 2017 at 8:46 AM - Statboy: in all fairness tf2 moved on from hats, dancing and taunts are the thing now
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:02 AM - Reechard: It's all hats.
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Reechard: have they found a way yet to make it so you have to buy keys to get random components for larger items?
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM - Reechard: like you open a box and get a rocket launcher tube, and if you use 300 more keys you'll also find a muzzle, handle, and shoulder stock?
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:30 AM - theLumberJack: that sounds terrible
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:36 AM - VaultBot: because not all things easier but for a char.
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:36 AM - Reechard: it's the next logical progression from what they've been doing...
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:47 AM - theLumberJack: i dislike the whole crate thing all around
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:47 AM - theLumberJack: but its tolerable when it's just cosmetic items
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:47 AM - theLumberJack: the whole all the new guns you have to get as items for tf2 really killed it for me
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:47 AM - theLumberJack: last nail in the coffin
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM - VaultBot: one of the advantages of rooting is you can remove stupid carrier bloatware
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM - TimeCrush: You mean like years ago when they first started coming out with alternate items
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM - TimeCrush: ?
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:48 AM - TimeCrush: Or is there some new shit I don't know about?
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM - VaultBot: a person in boston not liking fish? yea that's pretty bad.
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM - theLumberJack: no years ago
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM - theLumberJack: i haven't played tf2 in years
Feb 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM - theLumberJack: i just can't quit you fuckers <3
Feb 21, 2017 at 10:13 AM - VaultBot: affect the viewer just not super excited about destroying my body and hangs their limply
Feb 21, 2017 at 10:13 AM - Statboy: Planetside 2 people
Feb 21, 2017 at 10:13 AM - Statboy: its superior
Feb 21, 2017 at 10:14 AM - Statboy: We need a Vault outfit on that game
Feb 21, 2017 at 3:32 PM - TimeCrush: Hell, I just wish we had more people
Feb 21, 2017 at 3:32 PM - TimeCrush: I enjoy you guys, but it isn't ilke we are ever really around in more than pairs or trios.
Feb 21, 2017 at 3:33 PM - TimeCrush: Makes time matching up a bitch, and you can't just drop in whenever to a handful of familiar faces already in game.
Feb 21, 2017 at 3:33 PM - TimeCrush: Gotta wrangle two or three people to play, make sure they are actually free, get them all updated / installed, and then 2 hours later when you finally got a game going you aren't itching to play anymore.
Feb 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM - theLumberJack: yar
Feb 21, 2017 at 6:00 PM - VintagePC: "Nobody plays because nobody plays" is rather a vicious circle
Feb 21, 2017 at 6:59 PM - TimeCrush: Not one we are set to fix
Feb 21, 2017 at 7:38 PM - Statboy: When I'm a millionaire, I'll start game night with Statboy, and buy whatever game we're playing for everybody
Feb 21, 2017 at 7:40 PM - theLumberJack: Sounds good

Feb 23, 2017 5:03 AM - ushanka russian: hi
Feb 23, 2017 6:15 AM - VintagePC: hello
Feb 23, 2017 8:25 AM - theLumberJack: hola
Feb 23, 2017 9:50 AM - theLumberJack: graldor will smash
Feb 23, 2017 8:06 PM - VaultBot: so the little money they could give me.. was no where near enough to asha to make me part of my education
Feb 23, 2017 8:06 PM - SoL DarkLord: Enlish?
Feb 23, 2017 8:52 PM - VaultBot: vintage. do the tf2 servers get any players anymore, or just have to turn on alert stacking in the acp
Feb 23, 2017 8:52 PM - English: sorry I just got home
Feb 23, 2017 8:53 PM - English: and honestly i have a boatload of stuff to do at home
Feb 23, 2017 8:53 PM - English: im sorry guys

Feb 24, 2017 at 11:07 AM - Statboy: I'm gone 2 and half days with jury duty and everybody stops talking
Feb 24, 2017 at 11:11 AM - Statboy: I'm really fighting the urge to trigger some of our liberals with a news story about how much damage the protesters did to the land during the pipeline protest.
Feb 24, 2017 at 12:30 PM - Statboy: Or I could tell you guys about the court case now that its over, my girlfriend laughed hysterically when she found out it was about cattle wrestling
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:31 PM - Hexalan: how about: steve bannon admits that trump's cabinet picks are purposefully picked to destroy their respective departments
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Statboy: "We will drain the swamp". I highly doubt he said destroy, certainly tear down to rebuild is the order of the day
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:49 PM - Statboy: i guess quite a few bureaucracies are bad enough that destroying them is needed
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Hexalan: bannon's explicitily stated goal is the "deconstruction of the administrative state"
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Statboy: that sounds wonderful
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Statboy: you know what he means when he says "administrative state"?
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:51 PM - Hexalan: which explains choices like director of epa who doesn't believe in climate change, secretary of education who doesn't believe in public or secular schools, and secteray of energy who doesn't believe in the department of energy
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:52 PM - Statboy: how long did it take to build the strawmen in those arguments?
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Hexalan: do you not believe that they don't?
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Statboy: ohh son
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Statboy: you don't have the time for me to spell out all the wrongness
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM - Statboy: how bout this
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:55 PM - Statboy: overly simplifying somebodies complicated view to a complicated subject will never produce an accurate representation of their views
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Statboy: That's like me saying Obama hates all the Jew's because of the UN resolution he helped write and get passed during his final weeks in office.
Feb 24, 2017 at 3:56 PM - Statboy: You can't draw the truth from a fragment of the facts
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:43 PM - VaultBot: but yeah i read through a ton of db queries
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:43 PM - TimeCrush: Stat you regularly lump liberals into positions with one or two sentences.
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:43 PM - TimeCrush:
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM - VintagePC: I find it hilarious how party alignment is used as an insult
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM - VintagePC: "you're a filthy liberal!"
Feb 24, 2017 at 4:45 PM - VintagePC: etc etc
Feb 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM - SoL DarkLord: personally I hate anyone that isn
Feb 24, 2017 at 6:05 PM - SoL DarkLord: isn't open to hearing out both sides.
Feb 24, 2017 at 7:02 PM - Statboy: What about somebody who has heard both sides fully and completely and arrived a conclusion?
Feb 24, 2017 at 7:28 PM - Statboy: also, I have made generalizations about liberals that are true as a generality only, but have not summed up an entire single liberals thoughts on a subject in one or two sentences

Feb 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM - TimeCrush: We never say anything after that statement about hearing both sides because it is absolutely pointless to argue with you at that point. Not because you've 'heard both sides completely and fully' but because you've arrived at your conclusion already. If we were to claim we've 'heard both sides fully and completely', you would start telling us that we haven't, and go on a link tirade to any source
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM - TimeCrush: That fits your agenda.
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:01 AM - TimeCrush: So those lines effectively put a cap on the arguement. Frankly I'm fine with that because I coudn't give a damn, but just pointing that out.
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:05 AM - Statboy: I know I've said this before, but I haven't arrived at my conclusions lightly. Things I do argue with you guys about, are things I've taken the time to research. It's not that I'm not willing to listen to new arguments or evidence, its that you're hard pressed to find one I haven't already considered before I arrived at my conlusion
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:06 AM - Statboy: Just because you haven't changed my mind about something, doesn't make me close-minded. It just means I've already considered your point previously
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:07 AM - Statboy: Vintage did change my mind with new evidence a few weeks ago (maybe it was early January)
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:24 AM - TimeCrush: "Frankly I'm fine with that because I coudn't give a damn"
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:32 AM - VintagePC: Score 1 for vintage!
Feb 25, 2017 at 9:32 AM - VintagePC:
Feb 25, 2017 at 10:25 AM - Statboy: TC why are conservative thoughts an Agenda and liberal ones aren't?
Feb 25, 2017 at 10:43 AM - TimeCrush: I never said they weren't, and I didn't say conservative thoughts were an agenda, I said you would post things to fit ~your~ agenda.
Feb 25, 2017 at 10:52 AM - Statboy: what is my agenda?
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM - Statboy: I ask that because I do have one, but given how much what I say get's taken out of context after I say it, I doubt you guys see what I'm really trying to do.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM - English: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/ may I direct you all here
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:03 AM - TimeCrush: Thinking purely off the cuff, and without analyzing any of your statements to in depth: Get people to stop thinking with their emotions and respect due process.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:05 AM - Statboy: that's actually really close TC. So far personally 100% of people I've met who said they really follow and study what is going on in politics say they are conservative, and 100% of people who say they don't follow it much have been liberal.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - Statboy: So education about what the two sides of the issue really are is my agenda.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - English: May I direct you all here: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - TimeCrush: Not happening English
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - English: Would you please continue this discussion here: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - Statboy: If you only know the conservative side of an argument I can give you links to good intelligent liberal even. But everybody should be educated on politics
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:06 AM - English: How about here: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:07 AM - Statboy: Rofl
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:07 AM - English: Maybe here: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:07 AM - English: Orrrrrr here: http://www.vaultf4.com/forums/serious-discussion.25/
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:07 AM - TimeCrush: Right, my mistake, lets just go back to a dead box. Later fellas.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM - Statboy: English, I offered to talk about the court case I sat on, and you guys opted for politics
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM - English: Yup because the ONLY thing that can be talked about in Shoutbox is politics.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM - English: And No do not put me into that
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM - Statboy: and Pathfinder
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM - Statboy: how's Iron Gods treating yah?
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM - TimeCrush: Nobody said anything worth a conversation since Tuesday.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM - English: So start one that isn't politics ffs
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM - English: We have serious discussion for a reason. go use it
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:10 AM - English: Better than putting one line arguments with no sources and stirring the pot in box
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:10 AM - English: Go have intelligent discourse with fleshed out arguments and thoughts
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:11 AM - English: Instead of just shouting at each other with limited amount of character use
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:11 AM - TimeCrush: Nobody even made a claim which required sources. We were talking about ourselves and our views.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:11 AM - TimeCrush: But here ya go bud, have a day.

Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - VaultBot: still gotta stop bleeding in dem boobies
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - English: Yup im on my soapbox
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - Statboy: Let the records show I did try to engage english in non-political discussion, and it was ignored
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - English: You said that box was empty
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - VaultBot: it should get even more interesting if there are private servers still up i know ubi took theirs down
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - Statboy: 3 minutes ago
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:12 AM - theLumberJack: iron gods is good
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:13 AM - English: ...
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:13 AM - theLumberJack: though i think english might want to post again about changing nights
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:13 AM - English: one attempt very good job stat
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:13 AM - theLumberJack: to roll that ball some more
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM - English: yeah sorry about last thursday. I didn't get home until late from work then my wife had my running around the house for some imagined reason
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM - Statboy: anybody died yet?
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:14 AM - theLumberJack: no but we still haven't cleared to first dungeon-y thing
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:18 AM - English: anyone see the new John Wick?
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:18 AM - theLumberJack: no but i wanna
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM - theLumberJack: might go wednesday
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM - TimeCrush: I kind of want to see that Get Out.
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM - TimeCrush: Haven't heard much about it but the little teaser I caught looked neat
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:25 AM - English: Get Out? who is in that movie?
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:26 AM - TimeCrush: Think its a bunch of no-names, but I'm avoiding looking into it so I could be wrong
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM - English: Oh that movie!
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM - English: that looks fuckin creepy
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM - English: noty
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:29 AM - theLumberJack: it looks creepy but also looks interesting
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:44 AM - Hexalan: when you aren't sure if a paper is a rambling pile of bullshit or brilliant but the professor thinks it's brilliant
Feb 25, 2017 at 11:45 AM - Hexalan: I plan on seeing John wick eventually, but the theaters around me aren't showing it for some happiness-hating reason
Feb 25, 2017 at 3:37 PM - VintagePC: would anyone be interested in minecraft again?
Feb 25, 2017 at 3:37 PM - VintagePC: this would strictly be nobody we don't know well, because griefing and all that
Feb 25, 2017 at 3:50 PM - Statboy: I'd be up for it, I downloaded a fix for the VSync issue
Feb 25, 2017 at 5:04 PM - Statboy: Btw I am now living in St Louis
Feb 25, 2017 at 5:05 PM - Statboy: I'm wrapping up some stuff this week, but by the end of next week I'll be fully in St Louis

Feb 25, 2017 10:24 PM - TimeCrush: I'd love minecraft again. Can we mod it out for something more adventure based or are you saying use the same one?
Feb 26, 2017 7:10 AM - VintagePC: what did you have in mind? I'm contemplating a custom modpack but based off the techcraft box that flubbed.
Feb 26, 2017 8:42 AM - VintagePC: or did you just want more ruins/mines/temples/whatever?
Feb 26, 2017 9:09 AM - TimeCrush: More enemies, combat items, cool biomes and yes, ruins/mines/temples/whatever. The more fantastical and out there you can get.
Feb 26, 2017 9:10 AM - TimeCrush: Like, the adventuring and its payoff was very shallow in the techcraft box, but that is understandable because the tech was deep as fuck. Give me something I can grind away on, or work towards finding that is some kind of payoff.
Feb 26, 2017 9:21 AM - VintagePC: I'm not into the exploring side as much, but tell you what - find me some cool mods you'd like included and I'll work them in if possible.
Feb 26, 2017 9:21 AM - VintagePC: we are likely limited to 1.7.10, as I'd like to continue having rotarycraft/reactorcraft stuff
Feb 26, 2017 9:47 AM - TimeCrush: Alright. I'm not experience in mods, but I'll poke around and see what I can dig up.
Feb 26, 2017 9:47 AM - Statboy: Galacticraft TC? You have dozens of planets and moons now with that one
Feb 26, 2017 9:48 AM - VaultBot: code well if shes drunk then shes now a pleasure bot
Feb 26, 2017 9:48 AM - VintagePC: no worries, we'll work it out.
Feb 26, 2017 9:48 AM - VintagePC: I figure it makes more sense if you look since you have a better detailed picture of what you'd like than I do
Feb 26, 2017 9:49 AM - Statboy: and like you have to go to the moon to get the schematics and resources to go to mars, which gives you the schematics and resources to go further, etc
Feb 26, 2017 9:56 AM - TimeCrush: That sounds neat. Ideally I'd like to be able to explore above, and below. So that by far completes the above, maybe adding a couple things in the immediate sky. But now I gotta look at below. Oceans, caves, and sub-bedrock.
Feb 26, 2017 9:59 AM - TimeCrush: The same guy makes a pretty neat crossbow mod it looks like too.
Feb 26, 2017 10:00 AM - TimeCrush: Hnng, I need an eternal sunshine machine. I need to procure these mods without knowing whats in them but still making sure they are good.
Feb 26, 2017 10:00 AM - TimeCrush: Don't want to spoil all the surprise
Feb 26, 2017 10:01 AM - TimeCrush: https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/recurrent-complex This for sure.
Feb 26, 2017 10:04 AM - TimeCrush: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...s/1275201-1-11-2-atomicstrykers-battle-towers this looks awesome.
Feb 26, 2017 10:04 AM - TimeCrush: I need a thread this is getting out of hand https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/roguelike-dungeons
Feb 26, 2017 10:05 AM - TimeCrush: Maaaaaaaan now I'm itching to play. Vintage lets gooooo lol
Feb 26, 2017 10:05 AM - TimeCrush: https://sites.google.com/site/reikasminecraft/chromaticraft !!! Literally makes you go find the shit and link them up, keeps you out of your base.
Feb 26, 2017 10:07 AM - TimeCrush: http://tekkitlite.wikia.com/wiki/Dimensional_Dungeons
Feb 26, 2017 10:09 AM - TimeCrush: https://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/227639-the-twilight-forest
Feb 26, 2017 10:10 AM - TimeCrush: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...-world-gen-mods-realistic-world-gen-alpha-1-3 Realistic WorldGen looks massive
Feb 26, 2017 10:11 AM - Statboy: Dimensional Dungeons is awesome, but is for horrible for crashing multiplayer servers
Feb 26, 2017 10:11 AM - Statboy: twilight forest is fun and tough
Feb 26, 2017 10:16 AM - VintagePC: hah
Feb 26, 2017 10:16 AM - VintagePC: lemme finish up this modpack manager stuff and I'll get started
Feb 26, 2017 10:21 AM - VintagePC: chromaticraft is a reika's mod, we'll definitely get that in
Feb 26, 2017 10:22 AM - VintagePC: the depth on his stuff is insane, he does rotarycraft/reactorcraft too
Feb 26, 2017 12:42 PM - TimeCrush: I do request a couple hidden things that I didn't procure as I want to be surprised a bit. Give me something large and terrifying that keeps me worried to go out in certain places.
Feb 26, 2017 12:43 PM - VaultBot: i baked a breaded chicken parmesan
Feb 26, 2017 12:43 PM - VintagePC: RWG is iffy, it can break other mods by not spawning stuff you need
Feb 26, 2017 1:25 PM - VintagePC: now to see if it launches...
Feb 26, 2017 1:35 PM - VaultBot: i want to be viewed on a 70foot screen
Feb 26, 2017 1:35 PM - VintagePC: TC - I added three more items for you but I don't want to put in too much else given potential mod incompatibility and all that
Feb 26, 2017 2:16 PM - TimeCrush: Excellllllleeeeent
Feb 26, 2017 2:17 PM - TimeCrush: Point me to the download pack ala razers thing and I'm on my way
Feb 26, 2017 2:26 PM - VintagePC: jeez, I don't even know if it works yet, I'm in the process of uploading to the serverboxen now
Feb 26, 2017 2:26 PM - VintagePC: calm down
Feb 26, 2017 3:31 PM - VintagePC: well... it boots.
Feb 26, 2017 3:31 PM - TimeCrush: hnnng
Feb 26, 2017 3:31 PM - VintagePC: can't say much else yet
Feb 26, 2017 3:32 PM - VintagePC: gimme like 30 minutes to get op perms and whitelist set up... then you can play
Feb 26, 2017 3:41 PM - VintagePC: http://gs1.vaultf4.com/VaultCraft/Vaultcraft.jar here, so you can start DLing
Feb 26, 2017 3:42 PM - VintagePC: FYI.. there WILL probably be broken stuff. also don't do stupid stuff that might break it more
Feb 26, 2017 3:42 PM - VintagePC:
Feb 26, 2017 3:43 PM - TimeCrush: Hmmm
Feb 26, 2017 3:43 PM - TimeCrush: Curious
Feb 26, 2017 3:56 PM - LavaRed: omg minecraft really??
Feb 26, 2017 4:00 PM - TimeCrush: Can't get it to launch for some reason
Feb 26, 2017 4:00 PM - VintagePC: yah
Feb 26, 2017 4:00 PM - VintagePC: error?
Feb 26, 2017 4:01 PM - TimeCrush: Yeah, the only thing I adjusted was that I allocated more ram in the options.
Feb 26, 2017 4:02 PM - VintagePC: what's the error
Feb 26, 2017 4:03 PM - TimeCrush: Process ended with code: -1
Feb 26, 2017 4:03 PM - VintagePC: got to be more than that in the console
Feb 26, 2017 4:04 PM - TimeCrush: There is a lot, moment.
Feb 26, 2017 4:04 PM - TimeCrush: http://pastebin.com/Mypeu01x
Feb 26, 2017 4:04 PM - Statboy: so how are we doing this? 1 big base work together a lot? or run to seperate corners and help each other a little
Feb 26, 2017 4:05 PM - VintagePC: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...752-org-lwjgl-lwjglexception-pixel-format-not
Feb 26, 2017 4:05 PM - VintagePC: I'd say we can build our own bases but we'll set up a collab area at some point
Feb 26, 2017 4:06 PM - Statboy: distance from center spawn point to build?
Feb 26, 2017 4:06 PM - VaultBot: using free wifi is like sleeping with the jizz you get on it
Feb 26, 2017 4:06 PM - LavaRed: I can work ono a collab area to start
Feb 26, 2017 4:08 PM - TimeCrush: Lava are you in successfully?
Feb 26, 2017 4:10 PM - VaultBot: oh, that yes you getting there vintage? something new is
Feb 26, 2017 4:10 PM - LavaRed: I haven't yet, I've been grading papers but I'm nearly finished
Feb 26, 2017 4:11 PM - VaultBot: why not all of them
Feb 26, 2017 4:11 PM - VintagePC: damn query steup
Feb 26, 2017 4:12 PM - VintagePC: *setup
Feb 26, 2017 4:17 PM - TimeCrush: Vint, when you open the launcher and clickj options, what are the three values you have for RAM? I've forgotten the defaults and can't get them to reset.
Feb 26, 2017 4:17 PM - TimeCrush: Upgrading my driver as well just because, but I don't think thats gonna solve it
Feb 26, 2017 4:17 PM - VintagePC: oh jeez, I'm mid game right now and don't have it open. Don't think that matters though
Feb 26, 2017 4:18 PM - Statboy: Can I haz a white list?
Feb 26, 2017 4:18 PM - VintagePC: sec
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - LavaRed: oh hey yea, white list
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - Statboy: actually
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - Statboy: i think my minecraft name is out of date in our website
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - VintagePC: it's manual atm
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - VintagePC: not tied in to that (yet)
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - VaultBot: you got dis
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - VintagePC: statboy?
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - Statboy: stat_boy
Feb 26, 2017 4:19 PM - TimeCrush: Alright, moral of the story. Keep fucking with yoru java variables until it clicks. I'm in
Feb 26, 2017 4:20 PM - Statboy: but the underscore never queries minecraft properly and I have to login with my e-mail
Feb 26, 2017 4:20 PM - VintagePC: should be WLed
Feb 26, 2017 4:23 PM - Statboy: ty
Feb 26, 2017 4:24 PM - TimeCrush: Daw, I still need WLed too. Montmorency222
Feb 26, 2017 4:24 PM - TimeCrush: or montmorency
Feb 26, 2017 4:24 PM - TimeCrush: Not sure
Feb 26, 2017 4:31 PM - VintagePC: added, I think
Feb 26, 2017 4:31 PM - TimeCrush: All set.
Feb 26, 2017 4:34 PM - Statboy: did we crash?
Feb 26, 2017 4:35 PM - VintagePC: I think my SSH session running the server crapped out, that's all. Lemme start it properly
Feb 26, 2017 4:35 PM - VaultBot: oohh... apparently one of those bs marketing tactics
Feb 26, 2017 4:35 PM - VintagePC: in a background terminal
Feb 26, 2017 4:36 PM - Statboy: while we're at it, did you remember to disable sacred rubber saplings?
Feb 26, 2017 4:37 PM - VintagePC: good point

Feb 26, 2017 at 4:38 PM - VaultBot: check out that one
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:38 PM - Statboy: minefactory configs i think
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:39 PM - VintagePC: don't see the configs, that's why
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:44 PM - Statboy: its under power crystals
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:44 PM - VintagePC: yeah, found and set
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:44 PM - VintagePC: will need reboot
Feb 26, 2017 at 4:45 PM - Statboy: kk
Feb 26, 2017 at 5:11 PM - TimeCrush: Psh, disabling the one true god.
Feb 26, 2017 at 5:11 PM - TimeCrush: Plebs
Feb 26, 2017 at 6:54 PM - VintagePC: I will miss our endless supply of rubber and such on techcraft
Feb 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM - theLumberJack: nerds
Feb 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM - theLumberJack: making minecraft full of factories and automation, absurd!
Feb 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM - theLumberJack: *goes to play factorio*
Feb 26, 2017 at 9:01 PM - VintagePC: nerd

Feb 27, 2017 7:08 AM - theLumberJack: bleed
Feb 27, 2017 8:08 AM - theLumberJack: that was supposed to be bleep
Feb 27, 2017 8:08 AM - theLumberJack: i was not telling anyone to bleed
Feb 27, 2017 8:08 AM - theLumberJack: carry on.
Feb 27, 2017 8:12 AM - English: uh....
Feb 27, 2017 8:13 AM - English: ive been bleeding since 7AM
Feb 27, 2017 8:13 AM - English: Lava what do?
Feb 27, 2017 8:13 AM - English: TLJ told me to bleed
Feb 27, 2017 8:13 AM - English: now i get his message
Feb 27, 2017 8:17 AM - theLumberJack: Stop bleeding.
Feb 27, 2017 8:20 AM - English: oh
Feb 27, 2017 8:20 AM - English: ok ive stopped now
Feb 27, 2017 8:20 AM - VaultBot: you know it's bad when you start to go ""haven't i seen that person before?""
Feb 27, 2017 8:20 AM - English: ty
Feb 27, 2017 8:26 AM - English: you cant do things like that TLJ
Feb 27, 2017 8:26 AM - English: someone could get really hurt
Feb 27, 2017 8:30 AM - theLumberJack: I will restrain my tongue in the future.
Feb 27, 2017 9:03 AM - LavaRed: why are you bleeding and why not just text me? lol
Feb 27, 2017 9:11 AM - theLumberJack: He did as I said.
Feb 27, 2017 9:12 AM - LavaRed: hoooo boy
Feb 27, 2017 9:12 AM - LavaRed: and with that, I have to go get ready for work....hopefully he's not dead at his desk from blood loss lol
Feb 27, 2017 9:13 AM - theLumberJack: It's okay, I told him to stop bleeding.
Feb 27, 2017 9:16 AM - Statboy: isn't Mrs.English an ER nurse? Thinkin she can handle it just fine
Feb 27, 2017 10:19 AM - English: Something tells me she would use the largest needle possible and i don't know if i want that kind of help
Feb 27, 2017 10:19 AM - VaultBot: yeah if you want to do with #scan lines
Feb 27, 2017 10:19 AM - English: in fact i know she would. I got drunk once at home and she was mad at me so when giving me fluids she put an 18ga needle in my hand to start the IV
Feb 27, 2017 10:32 AM - theLumberJack: lol
Feb 27, 2017 10:33 AM - theLumberJack: its nice to have the capability of doing that at home safely
Feb 27, 2017 10:39 AM - VaultBot: smokey can suck a big
Feb 27, 2017 10:39 AM - Statboy: 1-0 prolene, look up how big those are
Feb 27, 2017 10:42 AM - Statboy: in all fairness though english, if you had been smoking as well that night, your veins would be difficult to hit.
Feb 27, 2017 10:43 AM - theLumberJack: my veins are super easy to see
Feb 27, 2017 10:43 AM - theLumberJack: ive never had someone miss a needle
Feb 27, 2017 10:43 AM - theLumberJack: my skin is so pale
Feb 27, 2017 10:46 AM - VaultBot: still gotta stop bleeding in dem boobies
Feb 27, 2017 10:46 AM - Statboy: paleness doesn't matter, its depth. People of Northern descent, such as me and my Swedish blood, have our veins deeper. Southerner's tend to have their veins closer to the surface
Feb 27, 2017 10:53 AM - theLumberJack: well I have nordic descent and my veins are easy to see
Feb 27, 2017 10:54 AM - theLumberJack: but also anglo descent
Feb 27, 2017 10:57 AM - Statboy: yah, its not 100% by any means. Especially in America/Canada, where we have such mixed blood
Feb 27, 2017 10:58 AM - Statboy: But let me draw on a dark skinned fat Samoan any day over the palest skinniest Inuit
Feb 27, 2017 10:59 AM - theLumberJack: my mothers side is american and we have no idea where they immigrated from
Feb 27, 2017 10:59 AM - theLumberJack: emigrated*
Feb 27, 2017 11:04 AM - theLumberJack: but from father side am first gen born in canada
Feb 27, 2017 2:34 PM - Statboy: I'm surprised vint doesn't do MineChem in his minecraft, that seems right up your alley
Feb 27, 2017 2:35 PM - VaultBot: so i wouldn't be surprised if there were alterations (different lenses etc) that could do it on my own
Feb 27, 2017 2:35 PM - Statboy: https://ftbwiki.org/MineChem
Feb 27, 2017 3:34 PM - theLumberJack: haha maybe it's too much like work
Feb 27, 2017 3:49 PM - Statboy: you make watermelon by putting the chemical components of water in a different part of the grid, I don't think its very realistic
Feb 27, 2017 4:03 PM - theLumberJack: is that now you make watermelons in america?
Feb 27, 2017 4:25 PM - Statboy: its how you make watermelons in minecraftia
Feb 27, 2017 4:25 PM - Statboy: though I think I have a video of how American's make watermelons
Feb 27, 2017 4:28 PM - Statboy: *runs off to find Gallagher video*
Feb 27, 2017 7:24 PM - VintagePC: Whoooo, on my way home, then minecraft
Feb 27, 2017 8:11 PM - LavaRed: welp so much for late night minecraft
Feb 27, 2017 8:11 PM - LavaRed: stupid internet
Feb 27, 2017 8:11 PM - LavaRed: did I end up dying ?
Feb 27, 2017 8:38 PM - Statboy: no you just dc'd
Feb 27, 2017 8:47 PM - LavaRed: phew!

Feb 28, 2017 at 3:39 PM - Statboy: well i accidently made 128 ender pearls
Feb 28, 2017 at 4:06 PM - VintagePC: how'd you manage that?
Feb 28, 2017 at 4:16 PM - VintagePC: I'll buy a few if you're selling
Feb 28, 2017 at 4:35 PM - VintagePC: also is it just me or do some NEI crafting grids seem to crash the client?
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM - VaultBot: yeah, the only thing it has phone capabilities...which i use my phone upside down? i didn't know if you have a video of how american&#039;s make watermelons
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:18 PM - Statboy: resonant ender ponds spawn now, I figured it was 1 bucket per ender pearl, but tinkers forge let me make 4 pearls per bucket
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM - Statboy: drop by and grab a stack, i have all my chests in a row, its in the furthest right chest
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:19 PM - VintagePC: cool, thanks. will do once my turtle finishes
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:20 PM - VaultBot: my doc was about to reattach the finger of a few things. should be relevant to the most recent topics talked about in shoutbox is functional due to being in love with my fk still
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: (can't leave cause no chunkloader)
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: no chunkloader because no ender pearls
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM - VintagePC: wow, you've been bus
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM - VintagePC: *busu
Feb 28, 2017 at 5:28 PM - VintagePC: *busy
Feb 28, 2017 at 7:26 PM - English: So i rolled for stats in my tabletop group... https://puu.sh/uovQt/0966c92c57.png
Feb 28, 2017 at 7:26 PM - English: i think my group hates me