D3 Expansion May Not Be Awful!

Discussion in 'Gaming Discussion' started by Geoff, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member

  2. VoltageSpike

    VoltageSpike Achievement Hunter

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/10974978/

    Called it a long time ago. The AH was ruining the game. I'm only surprised that it took Blizzard so long to realize they had undermined the entire point of the game.
     
  3. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member


    The biggest thing I see with developers these days is that when they put in something they are proud of and it fails, they don't want to remove it right away. They leave it in for awhile, maybe try to change it, but removing it is never an option. I mean, how would you feel if you were proud of something in a game you made and no one liked it?

    What's funny is it isn't being removed for another 6 god damn months. =/
     
  4. VoltageSpike

    VoltageSpike Achievement Hunter

    I'd feel like I should listen to my player base. The creators should be making the game based on what the players like, not the designers. If the majority obviously dislikes a feature so much, it's a dismissal of their concerns to just ignore it and say that they are blatantly wrong. That's literally the first rule of game design. Create for the player.
     
  5. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member

    The AH wouldn't have been so bad if they also didn't make loot based off it. I mean, that's the dumb part. The AH itself isn't bad because all Blizzard did was cut out the third party sites.
     
  6. 13thforsworn

    13thforsworn Achievement Hunter

    Is there something I'm missing? I don't understand why people bitched so much about the AH. Don't like it? Don't want to ruin the game for yourself? Don't buy anything from it. Simple as that.
     
  7. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member

    The point of the game was to kill monsters, get loot. Sadly, they focused the game AROUND the AH, so essentially you didn't get jack shit from drops and you were almost forced to buy stuff.

    Either that, or spend hundreds of hours trying to find low level gear just to advance slightly further. Basically, they screwed you over for not using the AH.
     
  8. 13thforsworn

    13thforsworn Achievement Hunter

    If this is actually the case, then that does really suck.
     
  9. Inflikted

    Inflikted Achievement Hunter

    so.. basically they got rid of everything people were complaining about and made it more like Diablo 2. Should make for more fun... the builds in d3 are still shitty in my opinion and are designed for derp mode.. not much creativity as compared to something like path of exile.
     
  10. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member

    ^ Funny enough, even someone like Kripp is bored of PoE.

    As for "creativity", PoE seems to be the same when it comes to builds as Diablo 2 was. Find the "good" builds, and everyone does them. If you decide to be "different", usually the build fails.
     
  11. Inflikted

    Inflikted Achievement Hunter

    true but at the sametime there are still multiple builds for each class in that game with d3 at this time there is basically one optimal build per class if you want fastest AOE dps for leveling paragon levels. I'd like a little more variety I guess

    Well its no wonder kripp gets bored of games, he plays them like a job lol :p. i might get 1 or 2 chances in a week to play something so I still enjoy it.
     
  12. Zirkus

    Zirkus Achievement Hunter

    Considering kripp played poe more than most people play any game in a lifetime i say its not really something anyone is surprised about. Also pretty much any build is possible. People just do cookie cutter builds because making other builds work requires thinking and sadly that isnt something most people are good at. For races i could agree more on builds failing but that is a whole different beast.

    On the front of the d3 expansion, kinda happy about it, kinda dont care. The gameplay was pretty fun and felt good it was just everything with the loot that ruined it and considering they even named it loot 2.0 they kinda realized it. Having to clear it 3 times just to get to inferno was kinda super dumb as well but thats in the past and hopefully they designed it differently this time around. Havent played in a long time but heres to hoping that melee doesnt get shit on and that ranged arent stupid good like the beginning of last time around.
     
  13. CorruptDictator

    CorruptDictator I want a custom title, but I dont trust VintagePC

    I will probably play the expansion at some point just to see how the story ends.

    I was never bothered by the auction house, although I will agree that the drops most of the time were horrible. At the heart the AH was a good idea if you really think about it. Back in D2 people were always trading stuff anyway and this just made it easier and the real money side removed a side market that was always pretty sketchy to begin with. I wish they would put in the new and supposedly better drop mechanics before deciding to drop the gold AH entirely. I feel like that side of the AH would be really nice to have on top of a better setup for drops so when you are just trying to complete a set or something you can do it if you want to, BUT most of your drops will be gotten in game.
     
  14. Zirkus

    Zirkus Achievement Hunter

    But the trading was HEAVILY throttled in d2 due to not having an AH. The problem with having an ah in a game like this comes down to the shear number of players. Loot in the AH is exponentially increased for each player, so when you have one click access to selling an item for no effort that is a lot of items freely flowing since the game lacks a wide sweep of bop stuff. Well how do you keep people from just permanently having really good-god tier gear? You lower the drop rate and roll chance for stats on items. Idk about you but i hardly ever found something half as good as some of the stuff you could find on the AH. Without an AH it is much harder to trade which means this blow is lessened a lot and values can be raised which means you have a better chance of finding the item which means you dont have to fork over eleventy billion gold to have a progression weapon. Even if you trade internally between a few thousand people on a website it would be nothing compared to the amount of people that could trade freely on the d3 AH with still less effort. The lack of an AH also encourages bartering and trading for items more commonly which is good imo.
     
  15. Inflikted

    Inflikted Achievement Hunter


    exactly item drops should be better with the riddance of AH.. I'm still waiting for something to be added to the game that is evolutionary, so far all they did was go back to D2, which is great but what else.

    also did they say what they will do with people that have money still sitting in real money AH? I sold some stuff quite some time ago and its still sitting there.
     
  16. Geoff

    Geoff Sir "Let's Play" Forum Moderator Staff Member

    Your account should be linked with a bank account or with Blizzard's account, so they'll probably put your money on their site. Just taking a guess.
     

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