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[Resolved] Ban appeal. (sorry if wrong place I really don't understand website that well)

weednosemlg

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In-Game name: LS Stewie Garrison
Time of Ban: 19:43
Date of Ban: 08-11-21
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:427384082
Reason for Ban: General douchebaggery, a history of, or several rule violations
Additional Comments: Hello to any admin that will find this. I must say that recently I haven't been having that good of behaviour with certain staff members and some players, I want to say that I fully take responsability on those. It was a shitty thing to do, and even after saying that I wouldn't have this kind of behaviour again (2nd time now, not that I am proud), I still did it again. To state the reasons of recent behaviour, I could only attribute this to both my nervous break downs and just the fact I can't let go of stuff. Like some said, I just need to grow up, and they are right about it, and that I just sometimes say terrible shit to people who give me attention. One thing that I want to state is that (if it means anything): The last drop of water was a talk about something regarding the server rules that started to turn personal and I misbehaved and ended up leaving the "conversation" (more like me being an asshole and the person trying to make sense of me) on hang and went to attend other business, making them, with all the right in the world, block me and ban me from the VF4 servers. I know a ban appeal is no place for personal apologies but I want to apologise to that person, for the second time. I realise I cannot mend our relationship, if we had any in the first place, but that I am sorry for my actions, and I will grow up, hopefully.
I am sorry if this sounds cheesy and pitiful, it is not my intent. I mean all of this in a genuine matter but I can see that it's hard to take this in a genuine way considering that I apologised 2 times now in a row to a certain person, who was just trying to help me be better person online (I can reckonize this because this is not the first person to tell me to wake, the only difference is that this was a slap for me to behave). I also realize that I have a very low chance of getting unbanned and I know my word is valued 0 but from now on (if I get unbanned i) I will do nothing but play TF2C the way it was intended, with no conflicts or me making an ass of myself.
 
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Hey admin I wronged, I hope we can become "friends" again, even if I don't get my punishment taken away. Even if it's just for wisdom/counseling purposes. Thank you anyways, for everything, and again sorry for being nothing more than a rock in your shoe
 
Hi there,

Your ban appeal has been received - This is just a cursory note to let you know I've seen it. I'll review it in detail and let you know the results, typically 48h but unfortunately my schedule has been a little inconsistent lately.

Thanks for your patience.

~Vintage
 
Hi there,

Your ban appeal has been received - This is just a cursory note to let you know I've seen it. I'll review it in detail and let you know the results, typically 48h but unfortunately my schedule has been a little inconsistent lately.

Thanks for your patience.

~Vintage
Thank you very much Mr. Vintage. I would like to personally apologise for my actions to you since you have now aknowledge me. I messed up multiple times and I promise I will change from now on. If I don't get unbanned, I would like to note that it's been an honor playing in your servers and with your community, despite my attitude sometimes, I will cheerish the talks that I had in voicechat
 
I've reviewed the information available to me and also conferred with the staff involved.

While we do appreciate the apology and owning up to the situation, unfortunately I cannot overlook the fact there's a lot of charged history here and it's my understanding you've received multiple warnings from staff and all of their goodwill has been consumed as a result of your antics. Unfortunately that means the ban will remain in place for the foreseeable future until such a time as you've demonstrated (and we genuinely believe) things have changed.

I will make sure the staff are aware of the apology you've posted here; it is a step in the right direction, I do wish you the best in taking this as a "wake-up" call and will note that you are certainly permitted to appeal this ban again in the future after a reasonable period of time has passed. I would caution not to do so spuriously but only once you genuinely think you've built sufficient rapport with staff members and they are satisfied there will no longer be an issue; this is likely to be a long term process and not something that can be resolved in a matter of weeks or a few months.

It is up to individual staff whether they are open to repairing any strive between yourselves; I do not mandate that they block communications with banned members, but I also do not expect them to interact with players that they do not feel comfortable interacting with.

I realize this is probably not the outcome you were hoping for but I hope you can understand that this is what we think is the best path forward for the community; we want this to be a place that is fun to be for everyone and unnecessary stress and drama do not fit into the equation.

Best,
~Vintage
 
I've reviewed the information available to me and also conferred with the staff involved.

While we do appreciate the apology and owning up to the situation, unfortunately I cannot overlook the fact there's a lot of charged history here and it's my understanding you've received multiple warnings from staff and all of their goodwill has been consumed as a result of your antics. Unfortunately that means the ban will remain in place for the foreseeable future until such a time as you've demonstrated (and we genuinely believe) things have changed.

I will make sure the staff are aware of the apology you've posted here; it is a step in the right direction, I do wish you the best in taking this as a "wake-up" call and will note that you are certainly permitted to appeal this ban again in the future after a reasonable period of time has passed. I would caution not to do so spuriously but only once you genuinely think you've built sufficient rapport with staff members and they are satisfied there will no longer be an issue; this is likely to be a long term process and not something that can be resolved in a matter of weeks or a few months.

It is up to individual staff whether they are open to repairing any strive between yourselves; I do not mandate that they block communications with banned members, but I also do not expect them to interact with players that they do not feel comfortable interacting with.

I realize this is probably not the outcome you were hoping for but I hope you can understand that this is what we think is the best path forward for the community; we want this to be a place that is fun to be for everyone and unnecessary stress and drama do not fit into the equation.

Best,
~Vintage
I understand. Goodbye then, sorry for the troubles, have a nice day. Same goes for certain staff members.
 
I've reviewed the information available to me and also conferred with the staff involved.

While we do appreciate the apology and owning up to the situation, unfortunately I cannot overlook the fact there's a lot of charged history here and it's my understanding you've received multiple warnings from staff and all of their goodwill has been consumed as a result of your antics. Unfortunately that means the ban will remain in place for the foreseeable future until such a time as you've demonstrated (and we genuinely believe) things have changed.

I will make sure the staff are aware of the apology you've posted here; it is a step in the right direction, I do wish you the best in taking this as a "wake-up" call and will note that you are certainly permitted to appeal this ban again in the future after a reasonable period of time has passed. I would caution not to do so spuriously but only once you genuinely think you've built sufficient rapport with staff members and they are satisfied there will no longer be an issue; this is likely to be a long term process and not something that can be resolved in a matter of weeks or a few months.

It is up to individual staff whether they are open to repairing any strive between yourselves; I do not mandate that they block communications with banned members, but I also do not expect them to interact with players that they do not feel comfortable interacting with.

I realize this is probably not the outcome you were hoping for but I hope you can understand that this is what we think is the best path forward for the community; we want this to be a place that is fun to be for everyone and unnecessary stress and drama do not fit into the equation.

Best,
~Vintage
Hey, it's me again. It's been...a while, I would say. May I appeal for an unban again?
 
Your request has been received, we will review it and let you know. :)
 
In-Game name: LS Stewie Garrison
Time of Ban: 19:43
Date of Ban: 08-11-21
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:427384082
Reason for Ban: General douchebaggery, a history of, or several rule violations

This situation has already been discussed but I was invited to re-appeal at a later date.
I would like to ask to be unbanned, yet again.
 
You have shown to me personally that you have changed quite bit. In my opinion we should unban him.
 
Your request has been received, we will review it and let you know. :)
Btw Vintage I made a mistake, I thought once the appeal was on "Resolved" I thought it was done, so I told him to make a new appeal. I am sorry Vintage D:
I guess lets just settle with this one.
 
After review and internal discussion, I am pleased to say that we feel things have changed and that we are willing to lift the ban.

However, as is customary in these situations, I would like to explicitly note the following:
  • Your prior infractions *will* remain on record and will likely be considered when determining future punishments should any additional infractions occur.
  • This appeal is your one "get out of jail free" card. You're now considered to have been made inexcusably aware of our community rules/guidelines. This means that ignorance of the rules is no longer an excuse and a sufficiently major future infraction may result in immediate permanent reinstatement of the ban, no questions asked. (You are _always_ welcome to ask questions or clarifications on the rules, should something be unclear to you).
  • Per the above, future permanent bans are unlikely to be considered for appeal.

Please reply here and let me know you've read and understood this. Once I receive confirmation I will lift the ban and you will be able to play again.
 
After review and internal discussion, I am pleased to say that we feel things have changed and that we are willing to lift the ban.

However, as is customary in these situations, I would like to explicitly note the following:
  • Your prior infractions *will* remain on record and will likely be considered when determining future punishments should any additional infractions occur.
  • This appeal is your one "get out of jail free" card. You're now considered to have been made inexcusably aware of our community rules/guidelines. This means that ignorance of the rules is no longer an excuse and a sufficiently major future infraction may result in immediate permanent reinstatement of the ban, no questions asked. (You are _always_ welcome to ask questions or clarifications on the rules, should something be unclear to you).
  • Per the above, future permanent bans are unlikely to be considered for appeal.

Please reply here and let me know you've read and understood this. Once I receive confirmation I will lift the ban and you will be able to play again.
Sure.
However, I am aware there is a particular staff member that does like to mess with my limits and temper. Despite my history, I am just a human like you and others. If said staff member acts up, I will report them for harrassment, because it is, and I hope action is taken.
Thank you very much for the chance
 
Please feel free to report it directly to me or another senior staff member. Given that players heckling staff falls under our "brown hat" rule, I expect the staff to similarly be respectful towards all players and there will be repercussions if they are found breaking the rules they are being asked to uphold.
 
The ban has been lifted.
 

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