I have been a part of FFN/this group in some way, shape, or form for around two years. I donated my time to help admin the servers (until I ran out of free time) and I donated $10 every month for almost as long as I've been here. I'm not looking for a pat on the back. I'm looking for a reason to contribute again. I want to help out in some way, but you need to sell me on the reason why. I know this is supposed to be a whole new experience: new community, new name, new leadership, etc. There has been talk of things being different this time, but little discussion (in public, at least) about how things will be different. I cannot, in good conscience, talk myself into helping/contributing to VF4 without seeing in writing what exactly is going to be different. What exactly are you going to do to avoid sinking this ship? I understand if this seemed overly negative, but I wanted to do this in the most straightforward way. I'm not mad about how things went down with FFN, but I am skeptical about how things will change. Like I said, I want to help... but, I don't want to waste anymore time and money. .silence.