Where is TFC maps???

[ISNEWPuddy]

this is Team fortress 2 Classic
mean
tf2+tfc
why we dont have the tfc maps?

there are some tfc map in tf2workshop
here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=455458255

 

[Moonrat]

Well, some people are making ports of TFC maps for TF2C. Problem is, with the massive MASSIVE changes between the 2 games, you have to do a ton of changes to levels. If you don't, you end up with maps like Dustbowl and 2Fort.

It's also very hard to get a server that can test your map, or the people to test it.

 

[SquishyPon3]

@Moonrat Eh 2fort could be a good map, but the 2fort implemented into vanilla tf2 (and now tf2c) made some changes that overall made it worse.

 

[Moonrat]

@SquishyPon3 HAH! 2Fort will never work in TF2 without MAJOR changes. Like map changing things. Infact, TF2's 2Fort was changed to be less campy with the new gameplay than TFC's 2Fort. Someone converted TFC's 2Fort to a TF2 map, and it's even worse than stock 2Fort.

Infact, pretty much any conversion from TFC to 2 sucks ass. Well, Dustbowl, Casbah (TF2C's version) and 2Fort suffer from cramped corridors, small layouts, and often only 1 or 2 entrances to areas. The 4 never received the changes that TF2 brought, and they all suffered. Compare them to Granary, Gravelpit, and Hydro, maps designed for TF2. Not saying that any of those 3 aren't suffering from problems, but they are defiantly designed better.

Basically, if you're gonna do a TFC map conversion, you NEED to change it a LOT, and not just detail wise. Sure, Well, Dustbowl, and ESPECIALLY 2Fort look amazing, but art can only take you so far.

 

[SquishyPon3]

The layout change in the room where the elevator used to be down to the under room made for one of the most powerful sentry/dispenser block combo in the game. Placing a sentry to the right of the upper spawnroom door and a dispenser in the door next to the grates is such an insane combo that's so difficult to break free of. In the classic design the catwalks made it so that the sentry spot was invalid, as it was blocked by them.

I just believe with some small layout changes like that you can make a big difference. The only thing left to do is add a second entrance to the lower/intelligence area. Maybe one that wraps around the left or something. Widen up all the rooms, and other such things.

 

[MacD11]

Casbah is a TFC remake. We aren't done with it yet either.

There will be more TFC remakes in the future, but makes like 2fort, well, and dustbowl dont really need "TFC-styled" versions of themselves. We're fine with their current, official remakes.