Shoutbox Archive Thread (slow Load - Long Posts)

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    Feb 27, 2021 at 3:15 PM - theLumberJack: lol i wish i had a hand in that
    Feb 27, 2021 at 3:15 PM - VaultBot: you could ingore posts in shoutbox is functional due to the fact my phone upside down? i suspect 9 = (9) = 9 yup zomg 3^2=9 bush 9/11
    Feb 27, 2021 at 3:15 PM - theLumberJack: i think making a game would be much more rewarding that what i do normally
    Feb 27, 2021 at 6:16 PM - Tinkinator: Hey would someone be able to rename me to Tinkinator pls? I'm not sure if I can tbh...
    Feb 27, 2021 at 7:05 PM - VintagePC: Sure thing, I can do that
     
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    Mar 1, 2021 at 2:34 PM - VintagePC: everyone good for tonight?
    Mar 1, 2021 at 2:49 PM - theLumberJack: so far
    Mar 1, 2021 at 2:50 PM - theLumberJack: [​IMG]
    Mar 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM - theLumberJack: uh oh
    Mar 1, 2021 at 2:59 PM - VintagePC: we're ready. Roll20 is not :p
    Mar 1, 2021 at 3:00 PM - theLumberJack: haha i'm more worried about you and reech rendering it specifically
    Mar 1, 2021 at 3:29 PM - theLumberJack: im probably going to have to cut this map up, the JPEG is 12 MB
    Mar 1, 2021 at 3:34 PM - theLumberJack: i have lowered the quality on it so it's only 6 MB if we get to it tonight
    Mar 1, 2021 at 3:55 PM - theLumberJack: if you get a message from me on steam its some kinda of account compromising thing
    Mar 1, 2021 at 4:04 PM - VintagePC: account got hijacked?
    Mar 1, 2021 at 4:04 PM - VintagePC: fun
    Mar 1, 2021 at 4:07 PM - theLumberJack: i don't even think its like a full hijack probably just the chat API
    Mar 1, 2021 at 4:08 PM - theLumberJack: ive reset my password and disconnected all the third party sites so hopefully that does it
    Mar 1, 2021 at 5:38 PM - Statboy: I think it was the Russians that hacked you LJ
    Mar 1, 2021 at 5:42 PM - theLumberJack: will be a few minutes late. we're down 1 at the moment. and can confirm now that the site was russian
    Mar 1, 2021 at 6:29 PM - VintagePC: Never good to be Russian when European...
     
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    Mar 5, 2021 at 4:59 PM - theLumberJack: vint you got any bed adhesion tips? trying to get back into printing after having mine in storage for ages and am struggling to keep things on the bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:07 PM - VintagePC: what is the surface?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:07 PM - VintagePC: *print surface
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:08 PM - theLumberJack: i have a glass bed that has this kinda textured thing on it. right now ive tried flipping it over and smearing glue stick on it
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:14 PM - VintagePC: Take it to the sink, and give it a good scrubbing with hot water, dish soap, and a CLEAN paper towel
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:15 PM - VintagePC: I've often found that some materials leave an oily residue (looking at you, sunlu PLA+) that just doesn't come off with IPA or other means
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM - VintagePC: are you printing PETG or PLA?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM - theLumberJack: PLA
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM - VaultBot: lj how many spells can i find the stock starting packages for d&d?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM - VintagePC: I'm also told that if your PLA is wet it can refuse to stick
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM - VintagePC: you might want to chuck it in an oven at 60C for a few hours if it's been sitting in open air for a while
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM - theLumberJack: just to dry it out?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM - VaultBot: ok i ignored vault bot lol
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM - VintagePC: yeah, that will drive off the moisture
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:17 PM - theLumberJack: noted
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:18 PM - theLumberJack: my last print got halfway through before popping off
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:18 PM - VintagePC: My printers all have PEI build surfaces.
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:19 PM - theLumberJack: potato?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:19 PM - VintagePC: lol
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:19 PM - VintagePC: Ultem
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: the other thing to consider is your part might be warping itself off the bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: PLA absolutely will do that on you if there are drafts or uneven bed heating
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: Enclosure is the proper solution
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:20 PM - VintagePC: might be able to dodge it by upping the bed temp a bit
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:21 PM - theLumberJack: i don't even have a heated bed actually so i'll look into that
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:22 PM - VintagePC: ouch, yeah, that'll definitely make it worse
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:22 PM - VintagePC: but a contaminated/dirty bed is the most common cause
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:23 PM - theLumberJack: this is my very budget diy anycubic kossel i bought in university
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM - VaultBot: it's not going to go to univerity, my parents made too much garbage on it
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM - VintagePC: Alas you can't upgrade to ultem/PEI very easily then; that requires a heated bed to work well
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM - VaultBot: well, it no longer tries to use replies and post notices as sources :p
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM - VintagePC: I've done prints like this myself https://projects.ttlexceeded.com/_images/3dprinting_bed_adhesion_print.png
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM - VintagePC: for science
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:27 PM - theLumberJack: access denied
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:28 PM - theLumberJack: there are heated beds for my model at least so it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM - VintagePC: https://projects.ttlexceeded.com/3dprinting_mk3_bed_adhesion.html
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM - VintagePC: scroll down
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM - theLumberJack: that's intense
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM - VintagePC: I have observed that 5 degrees can make a difference between success and failure
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM - VintagePC: at least on PEI
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:30 PM - VintagePC: https://forum.prusaprinters.org/for.../a-tale-of-two-sheets-pc-sheet-investigation/
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:30 PM - VintagePC: there's a plot in there of adhesion strength vs bed temperature
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:31 PM - VintagePC: I'm sure you'll appreciate those tests are *shear* force, because pulling perpendicular to the surface maxed out my 2KG spring gauge
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:32 PM - theLumberJack: oh man this is really interesting
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM - VintagePC: If you can, I'd suggest looking into a PEI build surface w/heated bed. Significant QoL improvement, especially if you get a removable flex sheet you can bend to remove parts
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM - theLumberJack: i saw some posts with that and didn't know what it was
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:34 PM - VintagePC: With those you want to use gluestick as a *separator*, not an adhesion agent, because otherwise some materials (PETG, ABS) will take a chunk out of the bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:35 PM - VintagePC: it's basically ubercharged kapton tape
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:35 PM - theLumberJack: i really like the idea of the removable flex sheet
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:35 PM - VintagePC: sticks like the dickens when hot, stuff just kinda pops off on its own when it's cool
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:37 PM - VintagePC: You might be able to find an aftermarket vendor that makes springsteel flex sheets and magnetic heated beds for your model
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:37 PM - VintagePC: alas I can't recommend any as my familiarity is only in the Prusa camp
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:38 PM - theLumberJack: throwing it on my kanban board to price
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:40 PM - VintagePC: Cheaper alternative might be a DIY approach if you can get a round flexible steel sheet you can secure to the base
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:40 PM - VintagePC: If you buy Overture3d filament it comes with a free garolite-like build surface that's not bad and would probably work for an unheated bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:41 PM - VintagePC: https://www.amazon.com/OVERTURE-Fil...41SZE7BGBDV&psc=1&refRID=SG7MJRAA541SZE7BGBDV
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 PM - theLumberJack: oh nice
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 PM - VintagePC: I stuck one of those on an empty steel sheet and it works well for those oily crap filaments I mentioned before
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 PM - VintagePC: so I can use the rest of the roll and never buy them again XD
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 PM - theLumberJack: do you have the dimensions for the free surface?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:43 PM - VintagePC: sure, sec
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:43 PM - VintagePC: 20x20
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:44 PM - VintagePC: (cm)
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:46 PM - theLumberJack: ah that's good i'd just have to trim the corners
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:46 PM - theLumberJack: i have a 20 cm circle for an area
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:46 PM - VintagePC: nice
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:47 PM - VintagePC: I'm told they don't hold up too well if you do a lot of PETG or ABS, but I doubt that's the case with an unheated bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:48 PM - VintagePC: sorry, they're builtak-like, not garolite
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:49 PM - VintagePC: *buildtak
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:49 PM - VaultBot: ok good to know
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:49 PM - VintagePC: but still, if you're buying filament anyway it's an easy thing to try
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:50 PM - VintagePC: Filament itself is pretty decent too, I'm pretty sure they are the former suppliers for AmazonBasics until about a year ago
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:50 PM - VintagePC: in case that means anything
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:59 PM - theLumberJack: i only really plan to do pla at the moment
    Mar 5, 2021 at 5:59 PM - theLumberJack: i think the heated bed is going to be the big improvement. i'm almost where the last one failed on this go and i can see the edges of my brim starting to lift
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:01 PM - VintagePC: yeah, definitely sounds like it is warping
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:14 PM - theLumberJack: yeah im watching a video a guy did of upgrading my printer and he just described my exact problem as the reason to get the heated bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:15 PM - VaultBot: now i have to do a full face transplant
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:15 PM - VintagePC: yeah, it's one of those things you can do without.. but wonder where it's been all your life afterwards
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:30 PM - theLumberJack: im seeing some kits for my printer around $80 including a larger powersupply
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VaultBot: its better than wearing a mask for the dice thing.
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VintagePC: That doesn't sound too bad. Unless it's more than the printer's worth :p
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VaultBot: vintages first attempt at creating sentient life ends in a troll bot
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VintagePC: I did not realize it was a delta
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VintagePC: YES THANK YOU VAULTBOT
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - VintagePC: I AM AWARE YOU KNOW
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM - theLumberJack: rofl
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:35 PM - theLumberJack: the printer was about $200
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:37 PM - VintagePC: I'm curious, how is it otherwise? I've always had the impression deltas are overrated.
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:37 PM - VintagePC: Complex mechanics, poor build volume-to printer volume ratio, conical build volume, no direct drive
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:44 PM - VaultBot: you're married, that means you have any battery life at all
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:44 PM - theLumberJack: it's been pretty good, last time i had it out i was printing miniatures and i was getting better detail than i expected
    Mar 5, 2021 at 6:48 PM - theLumberJack: i was hoping the build height would be good for printing like towers for pathfinder but that's not something i've tried yet
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:11 PM - theLumberJack: 16 minutes left on this print and im still attached
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:16 PM - theLumberJack: what do you use for a slicer, cura?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:18 PM - theLumberJack: my print just finished about an hour earlier than cura's estimate
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:51 PM - VintagePC: PrusaSlicer
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:52 PM - VintagePC: you're in luck if you want to try it, someone's submitted a profile for your printer already
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:53 PM - VintagePC: so scrubbing the bed helped?
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:55 PM - theLumberJack: no i haven't tried that, this was on flat glass with elmer's glue stick smeared on it
     
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    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:56 PM - VintagePC: :cool:
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:56 PM - theLumberJack: i can totally see the oil you're talking about though
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:57 PM - VintagePC: I have to laugh when I hear people raving about filament "oilers"
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - theLumberJack: they're adding oil?!
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - VaultBot: borderlands 1's story was nice, never understood all the hatred towards the ending. i thought the twist was cool./
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - VintagePC: one of those urban lore things that never seems to go away
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - VintagePC: yeah
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - VintagePC: apparently it "helps prevent clogs"
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM - VintagePC: it's stupd
    Mar 5, 2021 at 7:59 PM - VintagePC: and if it works it's only a crutch because you have a shitty hotend that hasn't been machined properly
    Mar 5, 2021 at 8:00 PM - theLumberJack: having worked in plastics :facepalm
    Mar 5, 2021 at 8:13 PM - VintagePC: and then they wonder why layer adhesion is crap or it won't stick to the bed
    Mar 5, 2021 at 8:13 PM - VintagePC: HURR DURR BETTER PUT ON MORE GLUESTICK THEN
    Mar 5, 2021 at 8:14 PM - VintagePC: It's nice having a setup where gluestick is a separator to decrease adhesion with some materials
     
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    Mar 6, 2021 5:52 AM - theLumberJack: trying out prusaslicer today
     
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    Mar 7, 2021 4:56 PM - VintagePC: Tomorrow is a bit up in the air for me atm, Don't know if I'll be ready on time for PF right now
     
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    Mar 8, 2021 5:22 AM - theLumberJack: no worries just let me. will let you know if anyone else cancels
    Mar 8, 2021 4:09 PM - theLumberJack: how you doin vint?
    Mar 8, 2021 4:13 PM - VintagePC: Just got home, just tired and relaxing. I think I'll be good.
    Mar 8, 2021 4:15 PM - theLumberJack: great!
    Mar 8, 2021 9:20 PM - Statboy: LJ, can you drop me a line of which spells are in the spellbook we found?
     
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    Mar 9, 2021 at 7:01 AM - theLumberJack: It's not in braille though
    Mar 9, 2021 at 7:03 AM - theLumberJack: but i will send you the list on the assumption you read magic in the morning after getting your blindness resolved
    Mar 9, 2021 at 7:10 AM - VaultBot: that could do it on my own
    Mar 9, 2021 at 7:10 AM - theLumberJack: sent
    Mar 9, 2021 at 3:08 PM - Statboy: ty
     
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    Mar 10, 2021 9:56 AM - Statboy: thats not a small fire
    Mar 10, 2021 10:22 AM - VintagePC: it is not
    Mar 10, 2021 10:23 AM - VintagePC: our server-on-fire banner has come true :0/
    Mar 10, 2021 1:17 PM - theLumberJack: oh god
     
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    Mar 14, 2021 at 9:05 AM - theLumberJack: don't forget to level up
    Mar 14, 2021 at 9:12 AM - VintagePC: psh, I have until 7:29.59 tomorrow
    Mar 14, 2021 at 3:30 PM - Statboy: remember that level 12 is an ability point level
     
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    Mar 16, 2021 1:03 PM - theLumberJack: hey vint how suspiscious does this look https://www.gearbest.com/3d-printer...3005917644410953.html?wid=2000001#goodsDetail
    Mar 16, 2021 1:19 PM - theLumberJack: im tempted to order it
    Mar 16, 2021 1:35 PM - theLumberJack: it is clearly a knockoff
    Mar 16, 2021 1:50 PM - VintagePC: lol, it's just a generic i3 clone
    Mar 16, 2021 1:50 PM - VintagePC: and probably a fire hazard
    Mar 16, 2021 1:50 PM - VintagePC: ... moreso given the frame appears to be made of laser cut wood
    Mar 16, 2021 1:50 PM - VintagePC: couple that with sketchy firmware that probably disables thermal safeties... I would hard pass
    Mar 16, 2021 2:02 PM - theLumberJack: yeah i didn't think about the frame
    Mar 16, 2021 2:03 PM - VaultBot: by armor you mean cup, and motion detector for when the alternative is taking a year or more to ""regrow"" your own skin naturally, during which time you are without skin on your face
    Mar 16, 2021 2:03 PM - theLumberJack: firmware is probably just marlin based off the screens
    Mar 16, 2021 2:10 PM - theLumberJack: had to do a double take seeing someone selling a kit at the price of what i'll probably spend for a heated bed upgrade
    Mar 16, 2021 3:16 PM - VaultBot: and they are in ohio
    Mar 16, 2021 3:16 PM - VintagePC: Anet used marlin firmware for their A8s
    Mar 16, 2021 3:18 PM - VintagePC: manufacturers have actually disabled thermal protections to work around crappy connectors and assembly throwing false positives
    Mar 16, 2021 3:19 PM - VintagePC: If you do decide to buy it definitely check that as the first thing
    Mar 16, 2021 3:20 PM - VintagePC: but honestly, unless you have a lot of time and more money to spend on "necessary upgrades"... cheaper printers are not worth the time
    Mar 16, 2021 3:42 PM - theLumberJack: Did they just disable it in the firmware?
    Mar 16, 2021 3:42 PM - theLumberJack: I reflashed the firmware on my current printer but now im vaguely concerned lol
    Mar 16, 2021 3:56 PM - VintagePC: yup
    Mar 16, 2021 3:56 PM - VintagePC: there have been cases where manufactureres deliberately disabled something that was enabled by default
    Mar 16, 2021 3:56 PM - VintagePC: there was even a recent tronxy printer that still had no thermal protection
    Mar 16, 2021 3:56 PM - theLumberJack: definitely glad i reflashed it then lol
    Mar 16, 2021 3:56 PM - VintagePC: until they got called out for it in a YT review
    Mar 16, 2021 4:07 PM - theLumberJack: well ordered my hotbed upgrade
    Mar 16, 2021 4:08 PM - VintagePC: nice
    Mar 16, 2021 4:11 PM - theLumberJack: 10-25 business days, oh boy lol
    Mar 16, 2021 4:11 PM - VintagePC: heh
    Mar 16, 2021 4:12 PM - VaultBot: sadly my attempts to get it out of the bed temp a bit
    Mar 16, 2021 4:12 PM - VintagePC: I had a small parcel I ordered from Germany back in mid december only show up last week
    Mar 16, 2021 4:12 PM - VintagePC: when it normally takes a little over a week
    Mar 16, 2021 4:12 PM - VintagePC: so maybe multiply that by 3
    Mar 16, 2021 4:13 PM - theLumberJack: haha yeah im not holding my breath
    Mar 16, 2021 4:17 PM - VintagePC: obligatory why not print one joke
    Mar 16, 2021 4:17 PM - VintagePC: :p
    Mar 16, 2021 4:18 PM - theLumberJack: lol a friend of mine did suggest making one, but that seemed like a bad idea
    Mar 16, 2021 4:23 PM - VintagePC: what could possibly go wrong??!?
    Mar 16, 2021 4:58 PM - VintagePC: ... I just looked at that printer again
    Mar 16, 2021 4:58 PM - VintagePC: I'm pretty sure it has exposed mains terminals in the PSU area
    Mar 16, 2021 4:58 PM - VintagePC: so I'm changing my comment to "do not touch with a 30-foot pole"
    Mar 16, 2021 5:52 PM - theLumberJack: Yeah I'm going to have setup a small enclosure when i do my heatbed because I had to get a similar supply
    Mar 16, 2021 6:29 PM - VintagePC: I'm sure there are printable user-designed covers for most common form-factors
    Mar 16, 2021 6:47 PM - theLumberJack: Haha RCA actually my thoughts
    Mar 16, 2021 6:50 PM - theLumberJack: Idk why RCA is. Phone keyboards are hard
    Mar 16, 2021 6:57 PM - VintagePC: Those darn RCA mains voltage connectors
    Mar 16, 2021 9:20 PM - Moira Prime: AAAAAAAAA
     
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    Mar 18, 2021 9:25 AM - theLumberJack: PEI sheet should arrive tomorrow
    Mar 18, 2021 9:26 AM - theLumberJack: ordered a Z probe too but thats estimated for next wednesday
    Mar 18, 2021 9:27 AM - VaultBot: ... your ppi would be through the roof
    Mar 18, 2021 9:27 AM - theLumberJack: going to use this print as my comparison
    Mar 18, 2021 9:33 AM - theLumberJack: this prusa printers site is much more polished feeling than thingiverse lol
    Mar 18, 2021 11:29 AM - VintagePC: lol, maybe because they actually bother to maintain it instead of shoving in malware serving ads and letting it just circle the drain like stratasys
    Mar 18, 2021 11:32 AM - VaultBot: attack of the b-team so gud. only second in my favorite mod set next to life in the firmware?
    Mar 18, 2021 11:32 AM - VintagePC: you should totes print this after :p
    Mar 18, 2021 11:32 AM - VaultBot: manufacturers have actually disabled thermal protections to work in an oven at 60c for a few minutes late
    Mar 18, 2021 11:32 AM - VintagePC: https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/28423-lattice-rubiks-style-cube-puzzle-mmu-non-mmu
    Mar 18, 2021 3:26 PM - theLumberJack: haha this is more interesting to me :p
    Mar 18, 2021 3:27 PM - theLumberJack: https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/26457-modular-scalable-bottom-watering-plant-pot
    Mar 18, 2021 4:22 PM - VintagePC: lol
     
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    Mar 19, 2021 3:27 PM - theLumberJack: no sign of my sheet >:[
    Mar 19, 2021 4:08 PM - VintagePC: well sheet
    Mar 19, 2021 4:08 PM - VaultBot: it uses the last one failed on this go and i can totally see the oil you're talking about though
    Mar 19, 2021 4:08 PM - theLumberJack: lol
    Mar 19, 2021 4:58 PM - VintagePC: in before it gets delivered opened with a note from your mailman and a benchy outline on it :p
     
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    Mar 20, 2021 at 11:26 AM - theLumberJack: sheet out for delivery
    Mar 20, 2021 at 11:26 AM - theLumberJack: should i do the glue stick on it to help get the print off like you said when i try it?
    Mar 20, 2021 at 11:33 AM - VintagePC: what is the print surface again?
    Mar 20, 2021 at 11:34 AM - VintagePC: PEI sticker?
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:28 PM - theLumberJack: yeah
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:56 PM - VintagePC: No glue required for PLA
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:57 PM - VintagePC: if you have adhesion issues give it a scrub at the kitchen sink with clean paper towels, hot water, and dish soap to remove any residues
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:57 PM - VintagePC: Make sure the soap doesn't have additives like hand lotions etc
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:57 PM - VintagePC: you only need a separating agent if using PETG or ABS
    Mar 20, 2021 at 12:58 PM - VintagePC: for that you can use windex, it has silicone oil which leaves a thin film that is sufficient
    Mar 20, 2021 at 8:32 PM - theLumberJack: well still never showed up lol
    Mar 20, 2021 at 8:32 PM - theLumberJack: says it was delivered too
    Mar 20, 2021 at 8:36 PM - theLumberJack: oh my room mate grabbed it while i was out nice
     
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    Mar 21, 2021 at 9:42 AM - theLumberJack: this is worse for me unfortunately
    Mar 21, 2021 at 11:03 AM - theLumberJack: im going to try washing it again after lunch
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:01 PM - VintagePC: Clean paper towel is important, if you use a dish sponge or something it can add enough grease to mess with things
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:01 PM - VintagePC: what bed temp are you running?
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:02 PM - VintagePC: you could up it 5-10 degrees to see if that helps
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:24 PM - theLumberJack: heated bed still another few weeks out if it even arrives on time
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:24 PM - theLumberJack: will try the clean paper towel didn't think about that earlier
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:27 PM - theLumberJack: oh im an idiot
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:27 PM - theLumberJack: there was a film over it that i didn't notice :facepalm
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:32 PM - VintagePC: lol derp
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:32 PM - VintagePC: PEI works best with heated bed, so you may need to wait for that for maximum reliability
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:35 PM - theLumberJack: yeah ive read mixed things about using it without one but i figured for how long i'll be waiting it was worth a shot
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:47 PM - VaultBot: that one
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:47 PM - theLumberJack: managed to print that warp test i posted without it coming off the bed at all!
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:56 PM - VintagePC: noice
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM - VintagePC: Anytime you have adhesion issues you can just give it a scrub at the sink again. You can use isopropanol (no additives) for lighter cleaning in between if necessary
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM - theLumberJack: i am struggling to remove my print
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM - VintagePC: pop the plate in the freezer for a bit
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM - VintagePC: thermal expansion differences ftw
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM - theLumberJack: oh\
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM - VaultBot: because i had to get a job...im pretty sure you can lol
    Mar 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM - theLumberJack: i am thankful for your tips
    Mar 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM - VintagePC: The biggest issue people have is touching the build plate and leaving fingerprints on it... and once you have one or two good fingerprints the IPA just smears them around and makes everything stick badly
    Mar 21, 2021 at 1:00 PM - VintagePC: once you have the heated bed the freezer should no longer be needed because you print hot and it releases once it comes back to room temp
    Mar 21, 2021 at 1:01 PM - VintagePC: though very thin parts may still be somewhat annoying if they flex along with the sheet
    Mar 21, 2021 at 2:15 PM - theLumberJack: nice. i've been doing my best to avoid touching the bed with my hands, and just using a scraper to get things off
    Mar 21, 2021 at 3:28 PM - VaultBot: hobos team
    Mar 21, 2021 at 3:28 PM - VintagePC: Yep, that works; with some practice it's super easy to use one to just get the corner started so the rest just pops off
     
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    Mar 26, 2021 6:19 AM - Moira Prime: Well I've had a fun morning
    Mar 26, 2021 11:32 AM - Statboy: Even if this guy was right, and the ban wasn't warented. And this is a hypothetical because I don't know the specifics.
    Mar 26, 2021 11:33 AM - Statboy: his response on the forum would alienate anyone on his side, and justify the ban hammer
    Mar 26, 2021 11:47 AM - VintagePC: What you didn't see is that they tried to make that post pretending to be someone else to get them permabanned
    Mar 26, 2021 11:48 AM - VintagePC: I edited the account name so as not to have this pointing at the wrong person
    Mar 26, 2021 12:02 PM - Moira Prime: The person they impersonated will try to get themselves permanently banned anyways
    Mar 26, 2021 12:02 PM - Moira Prime: they didn't seem very interested in the rules when I warned them
    Mar 26, 2021 12:30 PM - Statboy: Lol, that is a good way to get someone else banned. Gotta give credit for the creativity.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:25 PM - catnipper: To whom it may concern, I've gotten banned by Moira Prime for a very broad reason
    Mar 26, 2021 3:26 PM - catnipper: I've been banned for "general douchebaggery and multiple rule violations" which does not say anything in itself at all
    Mar 26, 2021 3:26 PM - catnipper: I've been told there was video evidence of this, but when i've asked for it, i've been provided with nothing'
    Mar 26, 2021 3:27 PM - catnipper: I got kicked off the TF2C/VaultF4 discord for "concern trolling" since i've struck a nerve by asking basic transparency regarding things like this.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:28 PM - catnipper: Even the police that the people around this place LOVE to hate always supply proper information about what rules one has violated.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:33 PM - catnipper: I hope to god none of you suffers this kind of lack of due process in real life.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:39 PM - catnipper: To add insult to injury, Moira has been dead set on ignoring any kind of approach for a conversation about this.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:40 PM - catnipper: my FReqs have remained dead in the water, always great for these community figures to blow off the responsibility and only stick with parading around their flashy rank
    Mar 26, 2021 3:45 PM - catnipper: Oh yeah, after I was muted on the Discord, they made it a point to derail the discussion regarding this
    Mar 26, 2021 3:45 PM - catnipper: And after the mute I actually got banned.
    Mar 26, 2021 3:46 PM - catnipper: Such an effort to suppress one person with something to say.
    Mar 26, 2021 5:24 PM - VintagePC: If you feel the ban is unfair you can make a formal ban contest in the appropriate forum like you were told in discord. That particular ban reason is often used for people with a history of infractions.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:02 PM - catnipper: What if i'm not contesting the ingame ban alone?
    Mar 26, 2021 6:03 PM - catnipper: What do I do about being booted off the TF2C discord, for example.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:03 PM - catnipper: And the only "infraction" i've had was like a resolved misunderstanding
    Mar 26, 2021 6:04 PM - catnipper: yet here it is being weaponized against me.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:04 PM - catnipper: Just because some mod-in-training hates my guts.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:26 PM - VintagePC: I can't do anything about discord, we do not control that. All I can offer here is to review the situation against the available evidence and make a decision on the ban.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:26 PM - VintagePC: (gameserver ban, that is)
    Mar 26, 2021 6:27 PM - catnipper: Well i've been treated underhandedly in that regard.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:27 PM - catnipper: At this point i'm just trying to figure out what is going through everyone's head
    Mar 26, 2021 6:28 PM - catnipper: I'm expected to follow protocol from a person's judgement which exactly doesn't follow any kind of protocol
    Mar 26, 2021 6:29 PM - catnipper: I ask, why am I banned, and I get is "you're a troll, get out of this discord"
    Mar 26, 2021 6:29 PM - catnipper: i've been told there's evidence, i ask to see it, I get nothing.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:30 PM - catnipper: And the ban reason isn't exactly saying much.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:38 PM - VintagePC: I'm not going to go do a deep analysis of what is there unless there is a formal ban request (it is a time intensive process). However... (ct'd)
    Mar 26, 2021 6:42 PM - VintagePC: a casual look at the Administrator log suggests this is not your first, nor second run-in with staff for breaking the rules. Two comms bans for language, one temp ban for the same, and now the most recent ban for whatever transpired to cause the current ban
    Mar 26, 2021 6:42 PM - catnipper: Yeah, I am very abrasive.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:43 PM - catnipper: But my first ban stemmed off from a misunderstanding, and the rest stemmed from me joking that someone's mom was a race fetishist
    Mar 26, 2021 6:44 PM - catnipper: meanwhile i get blasted with wayyy worse stuff on the reg and everyone spouting racial slurs walks away with a slap on the wrist.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:45 PM - VintagePC: That's rich, coming from you given you are one of those people spouting the same rhetoric.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:46 PM - VaultBot: and was like not another story
    Mar 26, 2021 6:46 PM - catnipper: Which is?
    Mar 26, 2021 6:46 PM - VaultBot: ergo... if you understand the stats _first_ you will know how many features of the forum lets
    Mar 26, 2021 6:46 PM - VintagePC: I checked the internal ban reports and the chat logs pasted there are not exactly pasting a kind picture of you
    Mar 26, 2021 6:46 PM - catnipper: Great, let's see them.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:47 PM - catnipper: It's easy to shuffle through someone's priors to attack their character. But I'm trying to find out what's going on in this exact situation to warrant the ban.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:47 PM - VintagePC: Make a formal ban contest and I reply with any relevant evidence we have to substantiate the ban.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:48 PM - catnipper: Why even mention it if you're not gonna show anything. o_O
    Mar 26, 2021 6:48 PM - VintagePC: because there is not a trivial amount of time involved in sifting through what we have and composing a proper reply out of it.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:49 PM - catnipper: But plenty of time to put out this bureaucratic front while letting your admins pass judgements willy-nilly.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:49 PM - catnipper: If you had such an infallible reason to nix me out of the server, why not put that in the ban reason statement to begin with?
    Mar 26, 2021 6:50 PM - catnipper: I'm talking about what went on in this present situation to warrant a ban.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:51 PM - catnipper: Not what happened... what, 2-3 weeks ago?
    Mar 26, 2021 6:52 PM - catnipper: Because when I end up with arguing people whom hang out on voice chat most of the time, and the logs end up displaying only one side of the conversation.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:52 PM - catnipper: ..I'm gonna be looking crazy regardless, so what's the use in bringing stuff like that up?
    Mar 26, 2021 6:53 PM - catnipper: "you've had priors so your right to complain is void"
    Mar 26, 2021 6:57 PM - VintagePC: Don't put words in my mouth.
    Mar 26, 2021 6:57 PM - catnipper: That's how the situation feels like.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:08 PM - VintagePC: You've been told how to exercise your right to complain but are unwilling to do so. You do not lose it because you have priors, but the fact you have them gives less excuse for not being aware of the rules.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:08 PM - VintagePC: I sincerely doubt you didn't know what you were doing, but if you require a reminder it appears to have involved spamming scramble/vip votes and griefing with someone impersonating other players on the server
    Mar 26, 2021 7:08 PM - VintagePC: ->Sourcebans takes canned responses for ban reasons while in-game
    Mar 26, 2021 7:09 PM - catnipper: I did NOT impersonate ANYONE.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:09 PM - VintagePC: I did not say you did. I said you were party to griefing with someone else that was
    Mar 26, 2021 7:10 PM - catnipper: there were like 4 people doing what I did at max.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:10 PM - catnipper: And what I did was on par with some other people wasting time by doing the basic friendly stuff I see atleast once per week.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:11 PM - catnipper: So the other question that I've wanted to ask here is, can I report "friendly" players?
    Mar 26, 2021 7:11 PM - VintagePC: Great, so take it to a ban contest. Put everything you refute on the table and I will evaluate it against the staff accounts of the incident and whatever else is available for review.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:11 PM - VintagePC: And yes, when "friendlies" are detrimental to gameplay then action will be taken
    Mar 26, 2021 7:11 PM - catnipper: You could argue that they are always detrimental.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:12 PM - catnipper: Where do you draw the line exactly?
    Mar 26, 2021 7:13 PM - catnipper: What I'm asking for here is that you actually set my ban reason to something comprehensive instead of this extremely broad statement
    Mar 26, 2021 7:13 PM - VaultBot: unless i missed some new amazing mouse recently due to the back-end caching
    Mar 26, 2021 7:13 PM - catnipper: because the way i understand it is that you people have "internal evidence archives" of these things
    Mar 26, 2021 7:14 PM - catnipper: and if that stuff actually exists, then that gives you less of an excuse to let people dish out bans with shoddy descriptions
    Mar 26, 2021 7:15 PM - catnipper: Because if I keep getting stuff like this, I'm not gonna even know what I did wrong.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:52 PM - VintagePC: This is exactly why I only deal with ban contests in a proper thread. Everything is in one place and in a logical threaded order rather than having to trawl through pages of chatbox messages where points and counterpoints jump all over the place.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:52 PM - VintagePC: We do not deal in explicit hard and fast rules to cover every possible case because we know someone will always attempt to contest them by the letter and not the spirit. This necessitates a generic catch-all rule which we enforce when things become detrimental to gameplay to the point were other players report and/or complain about the issue.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:52 PM - VintagePC: At some point, yes, that means someone is going to have to be a dick and draw the line on behaviour. And I trust my staff to make that judgement; It's a thankless enough job as it is that I sincerely doubt they have nothing better to do in their free time than have petty vendettas. But I'm flattered you think we take that much interest in you specifically.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:53 PM - VintagePC: I have told you what your priors were for and just noted what you have been banned for this time. Right now you are continuing to try my patience by deliberately casting doubt on the staff's judgement, the contention you may not have done any of these things, what-about-ism, and by playing the victim to a staff member with a vendetta.
    Mar 26, 2021 7:53 PM - VintagePC: Either go on record in a formal protest and refute what you contend you have not done, or stop whining about it outside of the established process. The vast majority of our players have no problems with our server rules and have no infractions despite probably never even having read them, so it is rapidly becoming clear to me this is a "you" problem and not an "us" problem.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:12 PM - catnipper: That's good, I'm not contesting a ban here. I'm asking your staff to do a better job on labeling their bans.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:13 PM - catnipper: The whataboutisms are there because there is genuine confusion surrounded by what makes for fun and what makes for genuine inconveniencing in these tiny servers.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:14 PM - catnipper: I'm casting doubt on the judgement of this particular admin in question because I've seen them mess up not too long ago in person
    Mar 26, 2021 8:16 PM - VintagePC: Seems pretty straightforward to me, if one is doing something that is annoying other people in the server, then it's time to stop doing it
    Mar 26, 2021 8:16 PM - catnipper: Something is ALWAYS going to annoy someone else.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:16 PM - VintagePC: and that's why there is judgement involved and not hard and fast rules.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:18 PM - catnipper: So if a person on my team goes idle just to play around with a sandwich all game and heal the enemy, I can report them, correct?
    Mar 26, 2021 8:18 PM - VaultBot: the drama in this one actually drives the story rather than being needless. soap opera's are needless drama in tv shows irks me
    Mar 26, 2021 8:18 PM - litrllyemma: catnipper we have a rule againts griefing, so yes
    Mar 26, 2021 8:18 PM - catnipper: I had blatantly not made a thread about this because I have an issue with trusting the judgement here.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:19 PM - catnipper: So what, i make a thread where i state "this is unfair" when i don't even have access to whatever is incriminating me
    Mar 26, 2021 8:19 PM - VaultBot: did the surgeon hold it up to his own face and wear it as a record player. the farther you are seriously incapable of just buying a phone and not fucking with it
    Mar 26, 2021 8:19 PM - catnipper: all i have is an incredibly broad ban message.
    Mar 26, 2021 8:20 PM - catnipper: and an incredibly avoidant admin
    Mar 26, 2021 8:20 PM - litrllyemma: so wait, is this whole thing about you not having evidence
    Mar 26, 2021 8:20 PM - catnipper: and a lock from the tf2c serv discord
    Mar 26, 2021 8:21 PM - VintagePC: Admins are deliberately not involved in their own ban contests to ensure impartiality
    Mar 26, 2021 8:21 PM - litrllyemma: > and a lock from the tf2c serv discord
    Mar 26, 2021 8:21 PM - catnipper: I'm insulted because there's a front of order and bureaucracy here while the end-user here gets treated with absolute hogwash
    Mar 26, 2021 8:21 PM - litrllyemma: we are not involved in their decisions, at all. we cant choose who they kick or ban
    Mar 26, 2021 8:21 PM - catnipper: Not the ban contest, but the ban reason.
     
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